How to Decal?

Ferrari250GTO · Post by **Ferrari250GTO** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:08 am

Ok. I admit it. I am more of a premade model type of guy. I never really put a model car or plane together. About all I have done is put the wings on a 1/18 Me 262. I want to put some correct markings on the tail of the Me 262, and eventually others on other things.

All I know is to cut the decal out.

As you can tell I need a bit of help. It will be much appreciated.

Thanks

mikeg · Post by **mikeg** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:47 am

Well, since I like my stuff straight out of the box, too, I'll tell ya- let your decal sit in the water for 30-40 secs, when loose, apply to tail- pat down with soft cloth, etc. to remove excess water, air bubbles whatever..if you don't have any decal set, then let it lay and be satisfied.

Crazy Kraut · Post by **Crazy Kraut** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:57 am

For better setting I use MR. MARK SOFTER and MR. MARK SETTER. This things really help to give the decals the look of brushed signs.
I print all my decals by my self and work with that things for longer time now. Absolutely satisfied with it.

greets

flyboy_fx · Post by **flyboy_fx** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:05 pm

Kraut do you speak english or use a translator.

Also do you speak fluent german?

tmanthegreat · Post by **tmanthegreat** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:12 pm

flyboy_fx wrote:Kraut do you speak english or use a translator.

Also do you speak fluent german?

Try not to be so rude

I think his signature says it all on the German fluency. Besides, people in other countries can learn to speak and write English better than many in the US can. In fact, I've had natives in both Germany and Norway speak to me in perfect, unaccented English. It sort of threw me off when it happened, but then it was kind of nice

flyboy_fx · Post by **flyboy_fx** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:21 pm

not trying to be rude.

Just wondering?

I thinks it is cool.

Ferrari250GTO · Post by **Ferrari250GTO** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:37 pm

I want these decals to last as long as the model lasts. Crazy Kraut suggested the Mr Marks. Any other products like this that I should be looking at?

If it helps any, these were the decals included in my Me262 purchase-
http://www.badcataviation.com/mehicodefor1.html

normandy · Post by **normandy** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:46 pm

You might want to try Micro Set... http://www.microscale.com/Merchant2/mer ... ct_Count=1
It's a good product... helps keep the decals on the model.

YT · Post by YT » Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:01 pm

This is the process I use for models, I am assuming it would work for 1:18 stuff also. Get a glossy surface, I airbrush Future floor polish and let it dry. I lay down a coating of micro-set while the decal is soaking in warm water. I then set down the decal and when I get it situated I use a paper towel to dab up any excess moisture. After about 45 minutes I coat the decal with micro-sol and repeat until the decal has blended with the surface very well, don't mess with it after you apply the micro-sol until it has dried or your decal may disintegrate. The next day I coat the area again with Future to seal everything down and protect the decal. The following day I coat the area with Testors Modelmaster clear flat lacquer. Done.

Black_Dragon_One · Post by **Black_Dragon_One** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:43 am

YT wrote:This is the process I use for models, I am assuming it would work for 1:18 stuff also. Get a glossy surface, I airbrush Future floor polish and let it dry. I lay down a coating of micro-set while the decal is soaking in warm water. I then set down the decal and when I get it situated I use a paper towel to dab up any excess moisture. After about 45 minutes I coat the decal with micro-sol and repeat until the decal has blended with the surface very well, don't mess with it after you apply the micro-sol until it has dried or your decal may disintegrate. The next day I coat the area again with Future to seal everything down and protect the decal. The following day I coat the area with Testors Modelmaster clear flat lacquer. Done.

dam that is a lot o work,,, how long does the decal last

YT · Post by YT » Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:09 pm

Black_Dragon_One wrote:
dam that is a lot o work,,, how long does the decal last

As long as the model/paint job. With that process it is a essentially part of the paint job and looks the part.

Crazy Kraut · Post by **Crazy Kraut** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:30 pm

Hallo flyboy_fx,
da du dich ja in Sachen Linguistik scheinbar sehr gut auskennst und mehrere Fremdsprachen in Schrift und Sprache fließend zu beherrschen scheinst, habe ich mich entschloßen dir in meinem perfektesten Deutsch zu antworten. Ja, ich beherrsche die deutsche Sprache und zwar fließend und Entschuldigung für mein schlechtes Englisch. Vielleicht liegt es aber auch daran, dass ich an diesem Abend ziemlich müde war und nur schnell und einfach Information und Tipps weitergeben wollte. Ich denke dies alles zu übersetzen ist für dich kleinen Sprachprofessor kein Problem, falls doch, solltest du dich nicht über Leute lustig machen, die versuchen in deiner Muttersprache mit dir zu kommunizieren. Einfach mal die Klappe halten!!!

Hope it is no problem for you to translate my german.
It seems you are a funny guy. But fun expense of others isn´t the kind of fun I like.
Well maybe I need to apologize for my bad bad english. But I´ve tried to give fast and useable information to Ferrari250GTO. And here (in Germany) it was late and maybe I was a little bit tired.
But I will suggest a little game in which you can show your brilliant linguistics skills.
Write a describition of some of your work in German (maybe a desribition of your Panther, which is very nice). And I will control it and try to tell you in English how many failures are in your describition.
What do you think Mr. Professor????

My signature is a little rhyme which is written in a book about the JG 300 (ISBN NR: 3-923457-58-8 ). Go get one they´re brilliant.
And my version is signed from Hajo Herrmann and others

Well, I´m out for the long weekend because of a Fligh In of warbirds near my hometown (the meeting is called HAHNWEIDE) and I don´t want to miss SPITFIRE, HURRICANE, ME109, FW190, Me163 and Co.
But after the weekend we can start the translation game.
It´s up to you!!!
Hope my english was not so bad this time.

normandy · Post by **normandy** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:46 pm

Crazy Kraut, will you be taking any pics at the " HANWEIDE " ? If you do please post them.
Oh, Your English seems fine to me!

flyboy_fx · Post by **flyboy_fx** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:54 pm

Crazy Kraut wrote:Hallo flyboy_fx,
da du dich ja in Sachen Linguistik scheinbar sehr gut auskennst und mehrere Fremdsprachen in Schrift und Sprache fließend zu beherrschen scheinst, habe ich mich entschloßen dir in meinem perfektesten Deutsch zu antworten. Ja, ich beherrsche die deutsche Sprache und zwar fließend und Entschuldigung für mein schlechtes Englisch. Vielleicht liegt es aber auch daran, dass ich an diesem Abend ziemlich müde war und nur schnell und einfach Information und Tipps weitergeben wollte. Ich denke dies alles zu übersetzen ist für dich kleinen Sprachprofessor kein Problem, falls doch, solltest du dich nicht über Leute lustig machen, die versuchen in deiner Muttersprache mit dir zu kommunizieren. Einfach mal die Klappe halten!!!

Hope it is no problem for you to translate my german.
It seems you are a funny guy. But fun expense of others isn´t the kind of fun I like.
Well maybe I need to apologize for my bad bad english. But I´ve tried to give fast and useable information to Ferrari250GTO. And here (in Germany) it was late and maybe I was a little bit tired.
But I will suggest a little game in which you can show your brilliant linguistics skills.
Write a describition of some of your work in German (maybe a desribition of your Panther, which is very nice). And I will control it and try to tell you in English how many failures are in your describition.
What do you think Mr. Professor????
My signature is a little rhyme which is written in a book about the JG 300 (ISBN NR: 3-923457-58-8 ). Go get one they´re brilliant.
And my version is signed from Hajo Herrmann and others
Well, I´m out for the long weekend because of a Fligh In of warbirds near my hometown (the meeting is called HAHNWEIDE) and I don´t want to miss SPITFIRE, HURRICANE, ME109, FW190, Me163 and Co.
But after the weekend we can start the translation game.
It´s up to you!!!
Hope my english was not so bad this time.

that looks like some great german to me

I do not speak geman

I was not trying to poke fun or make a joke.

Im sorry if I made it sound that way....
Can you read German cursive? I have some ww1 photos that have it on the back.
BTW Your English is very good.

flyboy_fx · Post by **flyboy_fx** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:59 pm

Oh you thought I was making fun of your English?

Well don't worry it is more than likely better than mine.

I was just wondering if you where fluent in German becasue your English is very good.

-FB

Crazy Kraut · Post by **Crazy Kraut** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:59 pm

Hi,
I´ve got some old WWI books and some old fairy-tale books written in that old font. And most of it I can read. It depends if it is written by hand or machine.
If you are able to send scans I would try to translate.
PEACE!!!

flyboy_fx · Post by **flyboy_fx** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 1:00 pm

Yea thanks so much!!!

Crazy Kraut · Post by **Crazy Kraut** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 1:05 pm

Of course I would try to take as many photos as possible.
2 digital cameras and one old style camera with lens should help to get some useable pics.
Hopefully the weather is going to get a little bit better. I´m really hot at the B17 (pink lady) and the Fw190A.
More next week.
regards

YT · Post by YT » Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:25 pm

This was all done with decals, using the process I described. No final clearcoat yet though.

pickelhaube · Post by **pickelhaube** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:33 pm

Crazy Kraut wrote:Hallo flyboy_fx,
da du dich ja in Sachen Linguistik scheinbar sehr gut auskennst und mehrere Fremdsprachen in Schrift und Sprache fließend zu beherrschen scheinst, habe ich mich entschloßen dir in meinem perfektesten Deutsch zu antworten. Ja, ich beherrsche die deutsche Sprache und zwar fließend und Entschuldigung für mein schlechtes Englisch. Vielleicht liegt es aber auch daran, dass ich an diesem Abend ziemlich müde war und nur schnell und einfach Information und Tipps weitergeben wollte. Ich denke dies alles zu übersetzen ist für dich kleinen Sprachprofessor kein Problem, falls doch, solltest du dich nicht über Leute lustig machen, die versuchen in deiner Muttersprache mit dir zu kommunizieren. Einfach mal die Klappe halten!!!

Hope it is no problem for you to translate my german.
It seems you are a funny guy. But fun expense of others isn´t the kind of fun I like.
Well maybe I need to apologize for my bad bad english. But I´ve tried to give fast and useable information to Ferrari250GTO. And here (in Germany) it was late and maybe I was a little bit tired.
But I will suggest a little game in which you can show your brilliant linguistics skills.
Write a describition of some of your work in German (maybe a desribition of your Panther, which is very nice). And I will control it and try to tell you in English how many failures are in your describition.
What do you think Mr. Professor????
My signature is a little rhyme which is written in a book about the JG 300 (ISBN NR: 3-923457-58-8 ). Go get one they´re brilliant.
And my version is signed from Hajo Herrmann and others
Well, I´m out for the long weekend because of a Fligh In of warbirds near my hometown (the meeting is called HAHNWEIDE) and I don´t want to miss SPITFIRE, HURRICANE, ME109, FW190, Me163 and Co.
But after the weekend we can start the translation game.
It´s up to you!!!
Hope my english was not so bad this time.

Dude they have a Me -163 that flies ? WOW

I am sure it must have another engine in than the C and A - stoff original.

I have read in books that the !^# was a pleasure to fly. If you can please take pics.

flyboy_fx · Post by **flyboy_fx** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:40 pm

Crazy Kraut wrote:Hi,
I´ve got some old WWI books and some old fairy-tale books written in that old font. And most of it I can read. It depends if it is written by hand or machine.
If you are able to send scans I would try to translate.
PEACE!!!

My dad said it is old german script.

His dad comes from a german family.

Crazy Kraut · Post by **Crazy Kraut** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:51 pm

Back from the HAHNWEIDE.
One word: AMAZING
To see the B17 together with Spitfire, Warhawk, Me109 and Fw190 flying was great.
And the Avenger, Mitchell, Skyraider, Mustang, Hurricane, Morane, Seafury, Rata, Ju 52´s, and all the others were great too.
And for the Happy End the
The Me163 got no rocket it is a glider version only. But you can see it in the air and thats the important thing.
Photos asap. Got so many , first need to check them all. If you google for HAHNWEIDE 2009 I´m sure you would find some pics. Good site with nice pics: http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/948597

For translation of the old german writings send me scans with PM.
Regards
Sven

flyboy_fx · Post by **flyboy_fx** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 3:58 pm

Why couldn't I be there

Ferrari250GTO · Post by **Ferrari250GTO** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:53 pm

It's all good, but I think I just witnessed a complete thread hijack LOL