Nightfighter 109 at BCA

digger · Post by **digger** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:39 am

Hey guys - get your nightfighter at Bad Cat while you can. Beats 80 bucks on ebay....

Post by **aferguson** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:31 am

Looks like he went a bought a bunch at WM to me...hence the 'not mint boxes' disclaimer. I'm surprised these haven't been made available to retailers other than WM yet. Most items these days seem to be the opposite....they go to online retailers first and then, eventually, WM.

BTW if any of you have decals from buying other 109's the ones that are just white outlines of swastikas are perfect for this plane..

digger · Post by **digger** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:25 am

He probably did get them at retail. I don't expect these to show up at small retailers at all - didn't we get the story that ToyFed got all the non-WM planes of this scheme?
Not everything that hits WM goes to small retailers - see the BoB M4.

JOC · Post by **JOC** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:43 am

Must be all sold out. Nothing about the Nightfighter on Bad Cats website.

Just talked to Julie. They only got a few, hence, all gone really fast. Oh well, back to eBay, if one really has to have one.

immeww2 · Post by **immeww2** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:40 pm

Gee, I was hoping to snag one of those Nightfighters too! They sure went fast!

tko211 · Post by **tko211** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:47 am

I will have to go check my Wal Marts around here. I thought I saw a few 2 weeks ago?

vmf214 · Post by **vmf214** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 4:57 pm

Funny thing is BCA may have found some at WM to sell on their site and maybe an ebay seller cleaned BCA out to jack up on ebay!

Website · Post by **Teamski** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 4:59 pm

vmf214 wrote:Funny thing is BCA may have found some at WM to sell on their site and maybe an ebay seller cleaned BCA out to jack up on ebay!

Yeah that's nothing new. How about the first 190s to hit the shelves of WM in CA just to be swiped up by some white van guys.......

I forgot who ran into them at the store...... I wasn't and am not impressed....

-Ski

tmanthegreat · Post by **tmanthegreat** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 5:03 pm

The bought at Wal Mart theory is the most logical explanation as BCA had done it in the past. The desert Bradley and S1 "Red 3" FW-190 were a couple of examples.

The 109 nightfighters are out there in greater distribution than perhaps most would think. I saw at least 2 each at two different Wal Marts in the Fresno area in January. There were still some at one store in February.

They're also on ebay - one going for around $20 the last I saw.

immeww2 · Post by **immeww2** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 9:29 pm

I missed the opportunity of getting one of these planes but just out of curiousity how much was BCA selling them for?

olifant · Post by **olifant** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 2:25 am

Forgive me because this is a little off topic here, but I feel I must make mention of E-bay opportunists.

Some of these hard to find items are really sold just to pad the pockets of a few people who snag up collectables. I just saw an E-bay sale of a Dragon "Wittman" Tiger, and the owner has the gall to say 1 of 60 with a photo of the giant stack of them in his home. Starting price was +/- $100!

I know that the county I love is based on capitalism, and this E-bay supply and demand is our financil system at it's best, but I refuse to pad these people's wallets. I hope this guy gets stuck with all of these Tigers and rues the day he paid retail for them. I know my small personal protest will not make one whit's difference, but I will stand firm anyway. Also, my wife would kill me!

digger · Post by **digger** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 9:06 am

I'm all for capitalism, making money on ebay and supporting the habit, but I have to agree that BSing about a product to take advantage of the uninformed is not cool. This is especially true on ebay where there is really no stopping someone from saying anything in their listing.
There is one seller who has been selling "rare" German halftrack drivers "only available with the halftrack" which is just garbage. The same guy can be found packed in with the fountain at a fraction of the price. That's just lying, not puffing, and is a detriment to the hobby, imo.

CW4USARMY · Post by **CW4USARMY** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 2:28 pm

Not 109 related but figured this was the best thread to mention Bad Cat posted new info for the pre-order aircraft from 21st Century. F-104 this summer?

vulgarvulture · Post by **vulgarvulture** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 2:41 pm

Why the heck is BCA saying "IF it is produced"????

IF?

wm69 · Post by **wm69** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 7:10 pm

I buy planes and resell them all the time on ebay. I sold several 109 nightfighters last week for $75 each. Am I gougeing? I don't think so. I had a "buy it now" price of $75 while the last few to go out of auction went for over $100. I try to make enough to make it worth my while, but I don't feel like I gouge people. I paid about $44 each for the planes (tax incl), go to the local shoe carnvival and dumpster dive for boxes, pay evilbay about $5 in listing fees, so you figure I'm making $25 each on planes (I usually don't make that much on them). The extra money allows me to buy planes for myself (and justify it to my wife while we are living paycheck to paycheck with kid #2 due first week of April) and I get people planes cheaper than online stores and I hand pick mine so they don't have to worry about getting a crappy paint job. When I found Stuka's on closeout for $20, I got $30-40 each for them. I often wonder if it's worth my while to do it, but I travel a lot for work and like to see what kind of deals I can find. I have FW190's listed now at $33-36 each. Better prices than online dealers and as already mentioned, I pass up planes that are beat up or have crappy paint (and more planes now have crappy paint than have good paint). I'm not evil or trying to corner the market, I'm just trying to keep my own collection going without spending grocery money on it.

tko211 · Post by **tko211** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 8:01 pm

I have been known to put planes ahead of groceries on several occasions!

It's all just part of the fun! Last weekend my wife suggested I look into renting a storage unit that I could store and display all my planes! Then she said I could go hang out there like some sort of club house? I returned fire with the the suggestion that she take a look at weeding out all the old clothes and shoes that never see the light of day more than once every 2 years! We called a cease fire and right now we are in the middle of peace talks!

Gotta love foreign policy!

Website · Post by **Teamski** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 8:04 pm

tko211 wrote:I have been known to put planes ahead of groceries on several occasions!
It's all just part of the fun! Last weekend my wife suggested I look into renting a storage unit that I could store and display all my planes! Then she said I could go hang out there like some sort of club house? I returned fire with the the suggestion that she take a look at weeding out all the old clothes and shoes that never see the light of day more than once every 2 years! We called a cease fire and right now we are in the middle of peace talks! Gotta love foreign policy!

Low blow, man. Low blow. You never go for the clothes. Never. You are playing with fire my man.........

-Ski

Website · Post by **Teamski** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 8:06 pm

vulgarvulture wrote:Why the heck is BCA saying "IF it is produced"????

IF?

Eh, I don't know. They will definately be done!!

-Ski

KAMIKAZE · Post by **KAMIKAZE** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 10:15 pm

Don't you realize that she will be able to
fit into those clothes again someday.

Mark

compfire · Post by **compfire** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:45 pm

vmf214 wrote:Funny thing is BCA may have found some at WM to sell on their site and maybe an ebay seller cleaned BCA out to jack up on ebay!

BCA now has one of the Black 109's Night Fighters on E-Bay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... eName=WDVW

So how does that work? Does that make Rob from BCA an "E-bay opportunists"?

I think as long as you fairly represent the product you are selling, and allow the buyers to set the price (i.e. - auction, and not highly inflated "buy it now"), I don't think there is anything wrong with that.

immeww2 · Post by **immeww2** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 8:26 pm

I think that anyone who realizes that they have a "hot" product in their hands ought to maximize their profit potential be it a retailer or individual. It just makes common business sense.

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