I now know where all the 21st XD from Wal-Mart went

VMF115 · Post by **VMF115** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 4:34 pm

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070613/wal_mart ... html?.v=11

I now know where all the 21st XD from Wal-Mart went

immeww2 · Post by **immeww2** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:24 am

I can relate to that. Everytime I visit the Hot Wheels section there is always a few packages torn open and the cars missing.

EnemyAce · Post by **EnemyAce** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:55 am

So is it official that Wlmart is out of the XD/32x business? Is that the new distribution news? I've been to two local Walmarts - one brand new, and one remodeled/reorganized that used to carry 21st war toys, and neither now has any xd/32x.

tmanthegreat · Post by **tmanthegreat** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:59 am

When you pay your employees low wages, barely follow the basics of proper customer service, under-staff your stores and simply run an entire corporation in a half-assed manner, the problems mentioned in the above article are bound to happen!!

Although my experience comes mainly from the Toy Department at Wal Mart (since thats about all I ever go into the store for) the fact that items are stolen, switched around, or simply mishandled should be of no surprise to Wal Mart or the people who shop there. It is really a sign of bad business practice - and the theft, distribution errors, etc. are entirely Wal Mart's fault. I've seen a number of 21c products in the wrong boxes, opend or mangled action figures, and most recently, a SW battle pack where the plastic window had been sliced open and the stormtrooper figures removed - yet it was left out for sale as though nothing was wrong! Where's the Toy Dept Manager in all this?

Again, the department and store managers need to make a more concerted effort to watch over their sections and maintain security. The Wal Mart corporation must take the measures to ensure this is done. If it means raising pay and cutting back profits in order to do so, then go for it! The business won't suffer and may even gain more sales. I also don't think such problems spell the end for XD and 32x at all, just they may explain where some of it has gone

Rowsdower · Post by **Rowsdower** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:42 pm

I said this in another thread but it applies here as well..

In my AO Walmarts there are scores of 21st products with boxes broken into, windows sliced or pushed in and parts busted up or stolen or switched with another model. The same goes with all the other toys. And because the toy departments are a ghost town where you hardly ever see an employee and are right next to the electronics department there are always many empty DVD and CD cases shoved behind the toy boxes.

These shoplifters get away with it over and over with the same goods and in the same aisles and the only thing WM will do is raise prices.

longrifle · Post by **longrifle** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 7:41 am

its VERY simple, you punish those who break the law...instead we have drifted to where now that criminal have more rights than you and I do.
Home Depot has a policy that NO employee can stop a shoplifter or aid the police in doing so. Just recently 4 employees were fired for aiding the poklice in stopping a man and his coworker stealing power tools.
YES---THAT IS THERE POLICY, and if I remember correctly WALMART has the same policy.........
Here in my home town 3 weeks ago, a Mexican lady walked out of the local WALMART with 2 buggies full of groceries, thinking she didnt have to pay for it,until one of the WalMart employees at the door stopped her wanting to see her receipt. ----I DONT A SPEAK ENGLISH!!!!! Was here excuse...she got off the hook, the groceries were put back, and she was let go. that only tells me, she has done it countless times before....Dont know what happened to the employee working the front door,havent seen them anymore.
Since then, several "customers" have been caught doing the same thing. Those are just the ones that have been caught, what about the ones that havent been.....

Its no wonder they are getting ripped off..their stupid liberal bleeding heart policies are the heart of the problem.
I guarantee if you start cutting off a few hands publically it would stop, but we are America....land of the offended...we are also the land of IDIOTS!!!!!

pickelhaube · Post by **pickelhaube** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:58 am

Cutting off hands, good about 100 years ago a little harsh today. But if the powers that be would threaten to do that now, that within itself could be a deterrent.

tmanthegreat · Post by **tmanthegreat** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 7:14 pm

Cutting hands is a little extreme, but I do whole-heartedly agree that people should have to pay for their transgressions. To me, it doesn't mattter whether it is a person that has done a criminal act or correcting a little kid that didn't use proper manners towards an adult, it should be made know that they have done wrong and that wrongdoing has consequences!!

Oh, and to the "I don't speak English" excuse, En México y tambíen en los Estados Unidos, es necesario pagar lo que compras...

Rowsdower · Post by **Rowsdower** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 9:50 pm

longrifle wrote:

its VERY simple, you punish those who break the law...instead we have drifted to where now that criminal have more rights than you and I do.
Home Depot has a policy that NO employee can stop a shoplifter or aid the police in doing so. Just recently 4 employees were fired for aiding the poklice in stopping a man and his coworker stealing power tools.
YES---THAT IS THERE POLICY, and if I remember correctly WALMART has the same policy.........
Here in my home town 3 weeks ago, a Mexican lady walked out of the local WALMART with 2 buggies full of groceries, thinking she didnt have to pay for it,until one of the WalMart employees at the door stopped her wanting to see her receipt. ----I DONT A SPEAK ENGLISH!!!!! Was here excuse...she got off the hook, the groceries were put back, and she was let go. that only tells me, she has done it countless times before....Dont know what happened to the employee working the front door,havent seen them anymore.
Since then, several "customers" have been caught doing the same thing. Those are just the ones that have been caught, what about the ones that havent been.....

Its no wonder they are getting ripped off..their stupid liberal bleeding heart policies are the heart of the problem.
I guarantee if you start cutting off a few hands publically it would stop, but we are America....land of the offended...we are also the land of IDIOTS!!!!!

Well said! On another note, for posts like that we need the beer glass clinking avatar that every other forum has!!

STUKA · Post by **STUKA** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:29 pm

Walmart and Target both have "loss prevention" teams - not just the spiffy uniformed person walking around target but 2-3 plain clothes target employees catching shoplifters.
I know for a fact Target loss prevention staff can stop thieves and many times gets in fights with folk who don't want to "cometo the back for processing" (wait for PD)
If WM has a policy that empolyees cannot stop thieves that is news to me - they have a full time loss prevention staff that roam the aisles - if this was stopped in the last few years - well they are just plain stupid.

Rowsdower · Post by **Rowsdower** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 8:46 am

STUKA wrote:Walmart and Target both have "loss prevention" teams - not just the spiffy uniformed person walking around target but 2-3 plain clothes target employees catching shoplifters.
I know for a fact Target loss prevention staff can stop thieves and many times gets in fights with folk who don't want to "cometo the back for processing" (wait for PD)
If WM has a policy that empolyees cannot stop thieves that is news to me - they have a full time loss prevention staff that roam the aisles - if this was stopped in the last few years - well they are just plain stupid.

When I was in Target yesterday shaking my fist at the lack of SW figures there were two guys in regular clothes stalking around in the toy aisles talking about some guy they were watching. So I can verify that. I wanted to stick around and watch the fun but I had to go.

pickelhaube · Post by **pickelhaube** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:05 am

It wasn't me that you are talking about is it? Is that an XD in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?

Rowsdower · Post by **Rowsdower** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:17 pm

pickelhaube wrote:It wasn't me that you are talking about is it? Is that an XD in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?

tmanthegreat · Post by **tmanthegreat** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:47 pm

Here's where some of the XD is now going to go

viewtopic.php?t=8494&start=0

MG-42 · Post by **MG-42** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:53 pm

"That was so predictable".

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STUKA · Post by **STUKA** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 2:35 pm

when you go into Target stores as many times as I do - or did - hunting starwars - you quickly figure out who the loss prevention staff are. Sometimes Target stores will rotate the plains clothes workers into the 1812 rentacop dress uniforms - which is kind of dumb.

Everyonce in awhile - Id walk up to one and ask if the loss prevention team was hiring - the expressions are funny.

Rowsdower · Post by **Rowsdower** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:28 pm

STUKA wrote:when you go into Target stores as many times as I do - or did - hunting starwars - you quickly figure out who the loss prevention staff are. Sometimes Target stores will rotate the plains clothes workers into the 1812 rentacop dress uniforms - which is kind of dumb.

Everyonce in awhile - Id walk up to one and ask if the loss prevention team was hiring - the expressions are funny.

The same two rent-a-cops are always working at my Target. One looks exactly like john Candy, it's scary. The other one looks like some wannabe Rico Suave latin type. They surely strike fear into the hearts of any would-be shoplifter!

rvlyssup · Post by **rvlyssup** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:07 pm

STUKA wrote:when you go into Target stores as many times as I do - or did - hunting starwars - you quickly figure out who the loss prevention staff are. Sometimes Target stores will rotate the plains clothes workers into the 1812 rentacop dress uniforms - which is kind of dumb.

Not true...I also guarantee you that your average "Guest" or shoplifter has no clue who is Target security...Organized teams, clueless...kind of defeats the purpose if they knew who is store security or investigations.

STUKA wrote:Everyonce in awhile - Id walk up to one and ask if the loss prevention team was hiring - the expressions are funny.

And the purpose of "Burning" store security is what? To be funny? Keep in mind, we are also there so everyone is safe and don't get into fights over a HotWheel. Collectors are generally well behaved. Other than an occasional ticket / barcode switcher, it is not smart to get a tresspass notice or worse, get arrested for a toy. Besides, we just watch you on CCTV...

Rowsdower wrote:They surely strike fear into the hearts of any would-be shoplifter!

Until they start crying for thier mommy while handcuffed to my booking bench...

STUKA · Post by **STUKA** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:29 am

[quote="rvlyssup"]And the purpose of "Burning" store security is what? To be funny? Keep in mind, we are also there so everyone is safe and don't get into fights over a HotWheel. Collectors are generally well behaved. Other than an occasional ticket / barcode switcher, it is not smart to get a tresspass notice or worse, get arrested for a toy. Besides, we just watch you on CCTV...

oh dont worry and get your target t-shirt ruffled

I would never - burn security - wasnt like I announced who you were - I was very quiet and casual - besides you need to look like you're shopping not trying to act like you're shopping. what i was trying to say is when in Target on lunch breaks you begin to recognize the same people. I know you have a tough and fun job - keep up the good work. when I was in College a close buddy of mine did the loss prevention.

pickelhaube · Post by **pickelhaube** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:23 am

Loss prevention? When did they start saying that? It has always been store security. I go into Wally or Toysy and am focused on one thing ,XD.I do not even look or think of a guy looking over my shoulder.
There could snakes or zombies hanging from the cielling and I would not notice. OK maybe Zombies.

tkjaer21 · Post by **tkjaer21** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:42 am

I just wish that they still had the Lawaway Dept. still open.

Dubar1 · Post by **Dubar1** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 6:33 am

I can't believe some of the responses I'm reading

Are you guys serious? Are you blaming Wal-Mart and the rest of these stores for these low-life thieves? What ever happened to trying to do the right thing by NOT STEALING to start with?

IF IT DOESN'T BELONG TO YOU DON'T TAKE IT!!!

STUKA · Post by **STUKA** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:32 am

Dubar1 wrote:I can't believe some of the responses I'm reading Are you guys serious? Are you blaming Wal-Mart and the rest of these stores for these low-life thieves? What ever happened to trying to do the right thing by NOT STEALING to start with?

IF IT DOESN'T BELONG TO YOU DON'T TAKE IT!!!

we dont steal. And as I'm sure most thieves have heard or read the parables and been told from time to time stealing is wrong - but - well they continue -

"Loss prevention" is greatly needed in stores like target and WM - heck even TRU - helps keep the prices down for us honest folk.

Sad thing is you would think these companies learn from experience.
I'm sure most store managers/owners have charts graphs - lists? of the hot items that get lifted the most - they know the blind spots in the stores - you would think they would take great measures to keep items from disappearing.
For example - even dummy cameras - or better camera systems. Target has added a uniformed employee as their doors - why - well they must have had a lot of problems with people just walking out with items - plus they are ready if the camera picks up someone shoplifting to meet them at the door -
What you want to do is remind the potential shop lifter that there is security and they are being monitored - friendly reminders - kinda like a sticky note - visual reminders - signs, obvious cameras real or fake in hot area, audio reminders - have the empolyees make more security anouncements - say if your scanning an aisle go on the com and say security scan area 3 - even if your not - physical reminders - instead of lurking and watching one person - which diverts your attention from the rest of the store call regular empolyees to interact with the suspect customer - if they are in the store to lift something - they will be parinoid and nervous - if an empolyee follows them to every aisle they will understand they have been figured out - and will become a real customer or leave.

that would be the best way to tell people not to steal.
I really hope stores are acting in measures better than what i listed - these were ideas turned down by one store because of fear that it would scare off customers. Public image etc.

If not - we get to make fun of them when we are bored and waiting for more armor.

FieroDude · Post by **FieroDude** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:46 am

They can't just tie the ones they capture to a post on aisle endcaps, and provide overripe produce for real customers to throw? I doubt there would be a lot of repeat offenders.

STUKA · Post by **STUKA** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:04 am

or even wax banannas

Small Scale Military Headquarters

I now know where all the 21st XD from Wal-Mart went

I now know where all the 21st XD from Wal-Mart went

American Justice

Re: American Justice

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