Support vehicles

blurx7 · Post by **blurx7** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 3:50 pm

I was really pleased to see 21C step up with the Opel Blitz and the Maultier recently in 1/32. What I would really like now would be some allied support vehicles other than halftracks. Anybody else wish for this too? I would love a nice 1/32 Deuce and a Half. I would love a Bren Gun Carrier for my Commonwealth troops. Or how about a Greyhound? Anyone else feel like we could use some smaller support vehicles for all our armor?

ostketten · Post by **ostketten** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 4:12 pm

Anybody else wish for this too? I would love a nice 1/32 Deuce and a Half. I would love a Bren Gun Carrier for my Commonwealth troops. Or how about a Greyhound? Anyone else feel like we could use some smaller support vehicles for all our armor?

I think a deuce and half would be a wonderful addition to the 21C line and a great seller too, how about a "Red Ball Express" version to start things off?? It would be awesome in XD as well. As for the Bren carrier and the Greyhound, I would love to see these produced, but I believe both are sort of "niche" vehicles and 21C might be a bit reluctant to venture down that road. I don't know, I suppose they do some kind of market research before bringing a model out, or maybe they just look at a picture in a book and go "hey, that looks cool....lets make it!!"

blurx7 · Post by **blurx7** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:26 pm

Perhaps... but they made a Sdk 222. Would a Bren Gun Carrier or a Greyhound be any more exotic? Personally, I hope they just say " Hey that looks cool, let's build it!"

Fox Tare-28 · Post by **Fox Tare-28** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 6:48 pm

How about a Horch?

Rowsdower · Post by **Rowsdower** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 9:13 pm

The time has come for an M4 High Speed Tractor!

tmanthegreat · Post by **tmanthegreat** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 9:52 pm

For whatever reason, that tractor looks cool! Stick a .50 cal MG on the top and we're on our way

Rowsdower · Post by **Rowsdower** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 10:29 pm

tmanthegreat wrote:For whatever reason, that tractor looks cool! Stick a .50 cal MG on the top and we're on our way

Heck yeah! I've always liked them, they just have that "look" to them. I do believe many were equipped with a ring mount for a .50 cal. I'd love a Greyhound and an Amtrac as used in the Pacific, there were models with turrets off a Stuart and flamethrowers as well.

For our modern troops, hows about a HET!

Gotta build some berms or smash some insurgent filled houses? Then you need a D9 armored bulldozer! Some even come with MGs!

uksubs · Post by **uksubs** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 11:15 pm

Rowsdower wrote:The time has come for an M4 High Speed Tractor!
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/

v288/folgore1975/trac.jpg[/img]

That the baby you need to tow the 155mm long tom

Rowsdower · Post by **Rowsdower** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 11:37 am

uksubs wrote:That the baby you need to tow the 155mm long tom

My thought exactly!

zonetoys · Post by **zonetoys** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:07 pm

uksubs wrote: That the baby you need to tow the 155mm long tom

Maybe they did. Maybe they didn't. You decide!

http://www.ceris-normandie.com/archives ... 000737.jpg

Rowsdower · Post by **Rowsdower** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:28 pm

Awesome pic Zone! I added it to my collection. It must have been one hell of a bumpy, noisy ride in those tractors! You can just make out the guy on the Ma-Duce mount too.

Post by **aferguson** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 6:29 am

That bulldozer is one of the IDF (Israeli defense force) modified Caterpillar D9's they use for bulldozing suspected enemy buildings (eg houses), clearing mines and other combat engineering purposes. Very effective and quite frightening to see. They also use the larger D10, which is as big as a house itself.

Nickname: Teddy Bear.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armored_bulldozer

Rowsdower · Post by **Rowsdower** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:47 pm

Yes I would imagine those huge armored dozers would have one hell of a psychological effect on anyone in its path.

Rowsdower · Post by **Rowsdower** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 7:26 pm

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binder001 · Post by **binder001** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:16 pm

"That the baby you need to tow the 155mm long tom"

Yes, that IS the primary towing vehicle for the 155 and its 8 inch howitzer "cousin". Some 155s were towed by 7.5 tock Mack trucks and the Marines often used Cat dozers to move theirs around (they didn't displace as often as the Army did).

Further, YES the M4 tractors had ring mounts in the roof for a .50 HMG

There were variations of the M4 that were used to tow the 90mm AAA guns (different ammo box on the back)

Gary

binder001 · Post by **binder001** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:25 pm

I agree that the Allies need 1/32nd trucks at least as much as the Germans! The GMC 2.5 ton 6X6 would be WONDERFUL but we can't seem to get 21C or Unimax interested. There are even good 1/35th kits to scale up (that's where 21C gets all their resaerch!) so a decent 1/32nd 6X6 wouldn't be too hard. 21C even has the Dodge 3/4 ton 4X4 in 1/18th, as well as its command car variant and the "stretched" 1.5 ton baby 6X6, so maybe they could scale down some of those. Unimax needs to make a GMC 6X6 to tow their 105mm howitzer, but no luck getting one yet.

ostketten · Post by **ostketten** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 3:40 pm

I agree that the Allies need 1/32nd trucks at least as much as the Germans! The GMC 2.5 ton 6X6 would be WONDERFUL but we can't seem to get 21C or Unimax interested.

You would think this would be an easy decision, I mean the possibilities for repaints and variations are HUGE.... for example: many thousands of Dodge and Studebaker trucks were supplied to the Soviets as part of lend-lease, and this is a no-brainer...it would bo SO EASY to do a Russian version, all that would really be necessary is to paint a red star on the side of the doors and you are in business!! And if they really wanted to get fancy they could include a Soviet tactical/divisional symbol, or maybe even a slogan to dress it up a bit more.

blurx7 · Post by **blurx7** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 6:23 am

Now we're talking! Bring on some TRUCKS!

Rowsdower · Post by **Rowsdower** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 6:26 pm

schizuki wrote:Did the Soviets ever mount Katyushas on these trucks?

The Russ loved the Studebaker as shown below. Interesting read too.

The cross-country performance of the Studebaker US6 2-1/2 ton truck was so good that it became the GAU's standard mounting in 1943, designated BM-13N (Normalizovanniy, 'standardized'), and more than 1,800 of this model were manufactured by the end of World War II

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyusha

ed · Post by ed » Sun Apr 29, 2007 1:27 pm

binder001 wrote:I agree that the Allies need 1/32nd trucks at least as much as the Germans! The GMC 2.5 ton 6X6 would be WONDERFUL but we can't seem to get 21C or Unimax interested..

The only American transport ive ever seen are these

http://www.sdsoldiers.com/very_new_prod ... y_news.htm
(half way down the page)

I have both and they're both really nice. I think that new ray make them or something but not sure as you can by them in civillian colours to.

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