New product update from 21st! WOW!
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This may have been brought up and I didn't see it. Anyway I have a little concern on how strong the landing gear struts would be. This will be a heavy model indeed.
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PAROT HEADJericoeagle1 wrote:Black Lion VF-213 wrote:Just tried editing my previous post.
http://www.brooksart.com/Raidonchinacoast.html
I wasn't able to see the picture so I've posted it here. Thats a cool design.






if sales are strong it could pave the way for other similar sized aircraft, assuming 21c feels that they have broad enough appeal and lots of repaint potential. An Me-110 is much smaller and was supposed to have been in the works for a couple of years now but i have a feeling it's died on the vine. A Ju-88 would be a good candidate.
However, as we are seeing this year, all things may be possible in time..
However, as we are seeing this year, all things may be possible in time..

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I am pleased as punch. Size doesn't scare me and neither does a 150 price tag for something this cool. Though, as others have said, I wait with trepidation. The Avenger debacle has me a little worried. I like this bird and have dreamt of getting one in xd for a long time. I just hope it doesn't take another 3 years. But, as TTT said, the wings don't fold. And, Jason said the tooling was easier. So, maybe my ship (pun intended) will come in soon.
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Now that would be a steal. The B-25 costing less than an F-4...VMF115 wrote:Jason thinks that the B-25 will be a lot less then the F-4II.Threetoughtrucks wrote:Guys, just keep in mind that part of the extra long delay in getting us the Avenger was the folding wing hinge problem.
This beauty will be straight wings. I do believe we'll be getting the B-25 much quicker.
As a dedicated armor guy, I'm already at work prying open my wallet. I also think if the B-25 is in the $120-$150 range, it will be be great.![]()
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Talk about giving the fans a deal. Got to do a gunship version.
I can't wait to see pictures of the B-25. The article on Area 21 said an update to follow. Hope that includes some pictures.
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I have to say, I'm not a big plane fan. I've got 4 hanging from my ceiling in 1/18 and only 1 did I ever pay full price for (Red Devils F18). All the others (Avenger, F104 and ME-109) I paid $30 or less for.
THIS however, I will have a pre-order in the day that Bad Cat announces pre-order's for it. I MUST HAVE THIS!!

I have to say, I'm not a big plane fan. I've got 4 hanging from my ceiling in 1/18 and only 1 did I ever pay full price for (Red Devils F18). All the others (Avenger, F104 and ME-109) I paid $30 or less for.
THIS however, I will have a pre-order in the day that Bad Cat announces pre-order's for it. I MUST HAVE THIS!!
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I have a brief comment about discussions on price. This came up first in the F-4 thread and now this one. My opinion is that it's best to remain silent on price and let the manufacturers determine the price. Although this group represents a small percentage of the market, we are still heard and saying things like "I'd pay XXX.XX dollars for it, or It would be worth it, etc." when in fact we don't know what the price will ultimately be will simply help the manufactures set a price. My concern is that such comments MAY help them set it higher than they were originally thinking. Why take the chance and shoot ourselves in the foot like that?
Just my 2 cents, that's all. Not trying to point any fingers at all or stir anything up.
Bring on the B-25 (gunship, please!)!
Just my 2 cents, that's all. Not trying to point any fingers at all or stir anything up.
Bring on the B-25 (gunship, please!)!
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I AGREE with V Vvulgarvulture wrote:I have a brief comment about discussions on price. This came up first in the F-4 thread and now this one. My opinion is that it's best to remain silent on price and let the manufacturers determine the price. Although this group represents a small percentage of the market, we are still heard and saying things like "I'd pay XXX.XX dollars for it, or It would be worth it, etc." when in fact we don't know what the price will ultimately be will simply help the manufactures set a price. My concern is that such comments MAY help them set it higher than they were originally thinking. Why take the chance and shoot ourselves in the foot like that?
Just my 2 cents, that's all. Not trying to point any fingers at all or stir anything up.
Bring on the B-25 (gunship, please!)!

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With all due respect to Jason's knowledge of the process, that just can't be the case. That would mean $10 more than a P-38? Doubt it.Jason thinks that the B-25 will be a lot less then the F-4II.

Who knows what can drive costs up - keeping the wings from sagging, adding a full crew


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Jason is right.
years ago when i worked at Ford, we did a cost analysis between a Pinto and a LTD. the Pinto was almost the same cost and Ford was really loosing money on every Pinto, because it sold for less
years ago when i worked at Ford, we did a cost analysis between a Pinto and a LTD. the Pinto was almost the same cost and Ford was really loosing money on every Pinto, because it sold for less
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bring them all
as far the 2 seat subject i really would like to see some 2seaters like an F18D or the ones cited above too !!!!!!!!!!!
For the B25 i think 4 figures are a must (2pilots and 2 gunners at least !)
it will be incredible to display !
what a year ! the SKYRAIDER then the F4 PHANTOMS and now the B 25 !!!!!!!!!
wow !
For the B25 i think 4 figures are a must (2pilots and 2 gunners at least !)
it will be incredible to display !
what a year ! the SKYRAIDER then the F4 PHANTOMS and now the B 25 !!!!!!!!!
wow !

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is there any prototype photos ?
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I'm not sure that is a great analogy but I see your point....KAGNEW wrote:Jason is right.
years ago when i worked at Ford, we did a cost analysis between a Pinto and a LTD. the Pinto was almost the same cost and Ford was really loosing money on every Pinto, because it sold for less
Do you think Jason meant cheaper than the AT F4 or the 21C F4?

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Thinking about it, is there a reason for this thing to have a really detailed interior? Considering the size, I see most people displaying this hanging from the ceiling, where you can't even see a detailed interior. Seems to me along the lines of the detailed cockpit on BBi's Zero that you can't even see once its assembled (which, to me, was a waste).
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Tondeylayo was a B-25D-20 of the 500BS 345BG.Rowsdower wrote:
She had her plexi nose painted and 4 .50's in the nose as one of the first strafers of the Air Apache's.
Too bad the restorers didn't correctly dulicate her, it would have been easy.
There is a nice pic in "Low Level Attack: The Pacific" of the Air Combat Photo History Series.