How about a BIG helicopter?

Sabrefan · Post by **Sabrefan** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 10:45 am

How cool would it be to have a 1:18th scale model of a CH-53 Sea Stallion helicopter. I have always liked this massive helicopter, and I would like to see a German and Israeli version also.

Moth · Post by **Moth** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 10:48 am

A Mil Mi-26 would be amazing too!
what a beauty that thing is

flpickupman · Post by **flpickupman** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:08 am

I keep forgetting about the Hind. That would be a pretty sweet 1/18 helo to have around the house.

I too would enjoy having a Sea Stallion. Heck, even a Sea Knight would be damn nice.

Moth · Post by **Moth** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:16 am

Yes, the Mil Mi-24 Hind would be great too, and a Ka-50 / Ka-52

Here are 2 good photos of the Mi-26

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/r ... -64p07.jpg

http://www.vectorsite.net/avhvmil_1.jpg

flpickupman · Post by **flpickupman** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:50 am

Dang. It's been a while since my last Mi-24. I got the 24 and the 26 mixed up.

Morian Miner · Post by **Morian Miner** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:52 am

Really hope we see a Hind one day. Until then, just have to be happy we got the BBi one, even though its waaaayyyy too small.

Post by **aferguson** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:53 am

i still hope and believe we will see the long rumoured BBI Hind.....i know it would be a winner. If you follow the BBI CC Hind on ebay they sell quickly and for about double or more of the Target retail price and all the Joe type boards love it.

I'd also love the Jolly Green (in Vietnam colours) and the Chinook.

lsc1002 · Post by **lsc1002** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 1:01 pm

A Hind D would be really really great! I have question that is a little off topic but since we are talking about Mil-24 I will ask. On the movie Red Dawn what chopper platform are the using for the Mil-24?

Post by **aferguson** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:42 pm

i believe they used a French Puma in Rambo and i thought they did in Red Dawn too but others say it was a heavily modified Sikorsky S-55. I'd have to see the movie again and look at the rotor hub/engine area. That would give it away.

digger · Post by **digger** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:02 pm

aferguson wrote:i still hope and believe we will see the long rumoured BBI Hind.....i know it would be a winner. If you follow the BBI CC Hind on ebay they sell quickly and for about double or more of the Target retail price and all the Joe type boards love it.

I'd also love the Jolly Green (in Vietnam colours) and the Chinook.

Hind won the helo poll a while back too.
JGJ/SS was 2d I believe. I'll take either.

Morian Miner · Post by **Morian Miner** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:38 pm

Wouldn't mind a JGJ, either. Especially with a couple new figures included.

75th Ranger · Post by **75th Ranger** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:57 pm

i want a 1/18 CH-47 Chinook!!!

VMF115 · Post by **VMF115** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:41 pm

75th Ranger wrote:i want a 1/18 CH-47 Chinook!!!

Also a CH-46 would be nice

Timbo · Post by **Timbo** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 9:14 pm

I'm all for any of the big birds but until BBI or 21st starts using something other than plain plastic for their rotor blades all you are going to have is a really nice slide for your troops to play on.

momaw nadon · Post by **momaw nadon** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:07 pm

Any whirlybird in 1/18th scale would be welcome. A Hind would rock or any Russian Helicopters. Like the MI-28 Havoc or Ka-50 Black Shark, both are awesome copters and would like cool in 1/18th scale.
momaw nadon

jeffrowse · Post by **jeffrowse** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:24 pm

aferguson wrote:i believe they used a French Puma in Rambo and i thought they did in Red Dawn too but others say it was a heavily modified Sikorsky S-55. I'd have to see the movie again and look at the rotor hub/engine area. That would give it away.

Oh goody, Aerospatiale's publicity machine strikes again...

The Puma, together with "stablemates" the Gazelle and the Lynx, were the result of the Anglo-French tie-up between Westland Helicopters in the UK and Aerospatiale of France. I'm sure there's no link between the fact that the Westland designs are all named after animals and the Aerospatiale designs were all named after birds...

But yes, they were Pumas - the S-55 has a deeper fuselage and a 7-bladed rotor where the Puma has a 5-bladed head... Hind (or Krokodil) has a 6-bladed rotor and it was only the A-model that had the "greenhouse" 4-seat nose and cockpit, the C-model onwards had the "double bubble" arrangement. The B-model never made it beyond initial development and pre-production.

Another Westland design flown with a different nose for film and tv work was the Gazelle - anyone remember Blue Thunder?

The sleek-looking Bell 222 was modified by the addition of "cabin extensions" and pop-out gun packs and a belly-mounted rocket launcher to produce Airwolf, while another 222 appeared in one episode as Airwold 2, and a Sikorsy S-76 guest-starred as the ill-fated HLX.
For anyone who's interested, the "222" comes from the fuselage length in inches, which would make a 1/18th version just over 12" long...

Can ya tell I'm a rotor nut (and a military nut... and a smartalec know-it-all...

)

What I'd like to see is a 1/18th Lynx, preferably either the AH-7 (skids) or AH-9 (wheels) variant, but not the Navy Lynx with its silly little 'wings' that were basically an afterthought to give a slightly-wider wheelbase for stability at sea...

Did you know that Lynx is the only helicopter in the world that can actually perform a backflip from the hover?

The (British) Army Air Corps team, the Blue Eagles, do three backflips in this years show... it really has to be seen to be believed.
Now let's see the lumbering (and pug-ugly!) American Apache do that then!

Timbo · Post by **Timbo** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 2:10 pm

When you can obliterate everything in your path you don't have to be acrobatic.

VMF115 · Post by **VMF115** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 4:16 pm

jeffrowse wrote:Did you know that Lynx is the only helicopter in the world that can actually perform a backflip from the hover? The (British) Army Air Corps team, the Blue Eagles, do three backflips in this years show... it really has to be seen to be believed.
Now let's see the lumbering (and pug-ugly!) American Apache do that then!

Timbo wrote:When you can obliterate everything in your path you don't have to be acrobatic.

LOL

The Apache was designed to destroy soviet armor not fly acrobatic stunts.

jeffrowse · Post by **jeffrowse** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:05 am

Timbo wrote:When you can obliterate everything in your path you don't have to be acrobatic.

VMF115 wrote:LOL

The Apache was designed to destroy soviet armor not fly acrobatic stunts.

Um gents, Lynx can carry up to 8 Hellfires (or rocket pods, or machine guns, or anything else that can hang on a standard mount - just like Apache) plus a few reloads, and some gropos as well... not quite up to Hind standards, and not quite up to Blackhawk capacity either (can the 'Hawk carry Hellfires on the external pylons of the ESSS or just the inboard ones?), but still a much nicer looking and useful ship than Apache.

Oh, and you can't loop Hinds or Blackhawks either!!!

Mind you, the Apache does have one advantage - it's the only one available in 1/18th!

momaw nadon · Post by **momaw nadon** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:44 am

I can't understand why anyone would want to fly upside down in a helio to being with. Don't get me wrong the Lynx is an awesome whirlybird and very capable. It even holds the speed record for rotary-wing aircraft. It would be just as welcome as any helicopters would be, but I want something for my Apache to shoot at. That is why I would like a Hind over the Lynx.
momaw nadon

Birddog · Post by **Birddog** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:23 pm

I know it's highly unlikely we'll see one, but I'd love to see the Mil Mi-28 in 1/18 someday.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu09HRaq ... ed&search=

Go Ugly Early in 1/18 scale!

Still waiting and wishing for a 1/18 A-10 Warthog.

ostketten · Post by **ostketten** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 9:17 am

You want BIG?? I'll give you big.... hows about a Sikorsky Ch-54 Skycrane... now there's your big chopper

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Ch-54.jpg

Sabrefan · Post by **Sabrefan** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 9:56 am

I love the Skycrane. What a cool helicopter that is.

Post by **aferguson** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 10:00 am

i think PTE is making a 1/18-ish skycrane.

Some of the Russian MIL helicopters are bigger than the Skycrane.

ostketten · Post by **ostketten** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 11:08 am

i think PTE is making a 1/18-ish skycrane.

Some of the Russian MIL helicopters are bigger than the Skycrane.

Yep, you gotta hand it to the Russians, they love BIG stuff, big tanks, big airplanes, and so on. But since we have yet to see any Russian vehicles from 21C, never mind aircraft (the upcoming MIG notwithstanding, and even that is painted in non-Russian livery), I think it is highly unlikely we will see any Russian copters in XD anytime soon, if at all, not that we are ever gonna see a Skycrane either.