Why arent ther more 1/18 space toys?

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Post by Morian Miner » Tue Apr 11, 2006 7:28 pm

I can't remember the company - I think its Attakus - that's doing a 1/18 dioramma with a portion of the Falcon with detailed interior and part of the DS docking bay. I think its around $2500 for the piece. Very nice. Pewter if I recall. Just too much money.

Anyone have the Glencoe retro space kits from a few years ago? I think they were 1/48. Some of those would be nice in 1/18.

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Post by Clutch » Sat Apr 15, 2006 7:39 pm

Anyone have the Space 1999 set???? Three figures and an Eagle I space ship. Great set for it's time.

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Post by JamesW » Sun May 21, 2006 12:11 pm

After a little digging I found a pic of the 1:18 Falcon diorama. It's insane.

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Post by tmanthegreat » Sun May 21, 2006 3:30 pm

That is pretty crazy!! The detail is amazing and what a fun set it would be, though I'm afraid to ask the price. Too bad there's only half of the Falcon, and where are the guns? Those would have been cool to include.
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Post by Jesse James » Mon May 22, 2006 1:43 am

The Attakus Diorama is part of a line they're going to do... The Falcon/Death Star Hangar are two-pieces you buy separate to make a complete diorama. The scale's slightly below that of the 3.75" figure line, but only a hair off... It'd be passable to the naked eye with basic figures in the diorama.

The diorama though is selling Attakus Metal figures separately for the set, and the set(s) themselves then. The figures cost upwards of $50 - $80 I think... I'm forgetting some specifics on this but it's something up in that range.

The diorama is made of resin, the figures metal. The diorama costs well into the thousands. I recall when I was told the price by some folks a while back that I could only think that it cost just a bit less than my last car cost me. ;) That's a tough pill to swallow, and the price broke the hearts of many SW collectors thinking they'd finally have the ultimate display piece. It's insane with detail, but horribly priced.

For scale vehicles, I wouldn't count on it any time soon... Though Hasbro did sublicense the 12" line so anything's possible, but the 3.75" scaled vehicles are closer to home for them in terms of getting into their bread & butter line with the basic figure line...

Hasbro's got price points set for vehicles they have to meet, and so a lot of vehicles aren't scaled properly because the toy's intended toc ome in at a specific pricepoint and fit in a specific packaging... With exclusives it's different but exclusives aren't often new molds. Usually it's something they have already used in the past or somethign they have tooled up that got put on the backburner.

It'd be nice to see Hasbro focus on scale but the way the SW vehicles sell they've got little incentive to go for it... And repaint options aren't what they are for say 21st or BBI... Hasbro tries to milk it, but they have LFL to get past, and believe it or not, Lucasfilm doesn't just let anything slide on through...

About the X-Wing you guys were talking about, it is a good bit underscaled to what the X-Wing models and lifesize prop/set pieces are... The "new" X-Wing came out in 1998 as the "Luke's Red Five FX X-Wing", and it has a handle, firing proton torpedoe, and it has a ton of sound effects and lights and stuff. The LUke and R2-D2 in it are both dedicated figures however.

They retooled the molds some to make the cockpit and droid socket both accomodate figures, however the cockpit is VERY small, and so not all pilots fit in it and none of them look accurately sized/scaled when it it, not by a long shot.

Things may be from movies, but generally there's some care put into scale/dimensions of ships and things even in Sci-Fi... Star Trek in particular is methodical about stuff like that.

In the Star Wars trilogy, the first film's vehicles probably have more scale issues than the latter two films. The latter two were on less rushed schedules in general, whereas the original Star Wars had FX shots taking forever and really delaying the finishing of the film, so some of the "care" went out the window... Though ships like the X-WIng and Y-Wing had models that were built pretty true to the life-size prop/set pieces actually, and so there's good scales for these fighters set... The Falcon though has a number of models and they don't all line up in scale right, though some were made for very distant shots, others for close-up FX shots, and then there's a partial of the ship for a life size setpiece/prop too... But in general there are somewhat accepted dimensions for the Falcon and things, as there's a model of it from ESB and ROTJ that is THE model most used of the Falcon and the one matte paintings were based on... It sort of becomes the standard.

A good rule of thumb with SW and dimensions/scale and stuff, is to not trust anything in any written material. :lol: The films are what's considered "canon", so it's better to eyeball the films, make as close a judgment as you can, and just go from there... The books though, are often using dimensions from material that wasn't right 2 decades ago, and it's not right today... Some of it's so far off it's funny, but it's what got into an RPG book back in 1986 so it's just sort of "stuck" despite the film contradicting it.
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