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Any other good R/C tanks out there?????

Post by ww2collecter » Tue Nov 29, 2005 6:58 pm

I did'nt want to throw this in w/ the R/C panzer/m113 thread and it get lose. But since I got the RC panzer and how fun it is. Are there any other good R/C tanks to buy? Like the 1:6 Staurt, or better. Also do they come constructed or so you have to build them. Which is not my strong point. And how big do they come. I know about a company in UK that makes 1/4 scale, but they are another car payment. Is there any that are cheaper? Please post links in possible , even if its just information

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Post by KAGNEW » Tue Nov 29, 2005 7:31 pm

hi
our tank club buys some 1/16 RC tanks from www.egrandbuy.com
they are good for battles and teaching nuguys before they get into good stuff

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1:9 Abrams

Post by Charlemagne » Tue Nov 29, 2005 8:18 pm

My local WalMart in Tampa has the new 1:9 Abrams(on the lower shelf). I was amazed at the size but a little disapointed in the detailing. I was curious to know how much it was because I didn't see a price and I sure as heck couldn't pick it up and swipe it under the little price checker gizmo so I still don't know how much.

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Post by flayrah » Tue Nov 29, 2005 8:49 pm

After looking at some of those 1:16 tanks, they seem far superior to the 21st offerings - and not much more money.

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Post by GooglyDoogly » Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:33 pm

Junk...all of them. Bad Chinese bootlegs. They don't even have the decency of saying who's the actual maker of these abominations. Marui? That's a respectable Japanese airsoft gun manufacturer. I own a couple of Marui (REAL Tokyo Marui) tanks (Abrams and Leopard), and their quality can't even be compared with these devil's rejects. How about calling these tanks, Hen Long tanks.

Cheap. Cheap. Cheap. Take a look at the price...regular price, $129.00, sale price, $60.00!!! Wow, what a bargain! Wait...let's analyze this for a sec...

You can get one of these tanks on Ebay for 30.00 Buy It Now, but with a 48.00 shipping charge. That's the current scam. Let's see...that's 78.00 total. I bought one some time ago, and the actual shipping was 12.95.

So my guess is the actual cost of these tanks are between 25-30 dollars, and the seller get their profit off the shipping charge. God I hate bootleg sellers. Learn from my mistake. For buying a bootleg tank, I bought a couple of Tamiya 1/16 RC tanks as atonement.

Pitiful, really. The Chinese have invented and created, many beautiful grand things. But now, all they do is churn out garbage copies.

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Re: 1:9 Abrams

Post by immeww2 » Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:45 pm

Charlemagne wrote:I was curious to know how much it was because I didn't see a price and I sure as heck couldn't pick it up and swipe it under the little price checker gizmo so I still don't know how much.

Dan
The price at my WM was $200.

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Post by nfafan » Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:19 pm

GooglyDoogly wrote:Junk...all of them. Bad Chinese bootlegs. They don't even have the decency of saying who's the actual maker of these abominations. Marui? That's a respectable Japanese airsoft gun manufacturer. I own a couple of Marui (REAL Tokyo Marui) tanks (Abrams and Leopard), and their quality can't even be compared with these devil's rejects. How about calling these tanks, Hen Long tanks.

Cheap. Cheap. Cheap. Take a look at the price...regular price, $129.00, sale price, $60.00!!! Wow, what a bargain! Wait...let's analyze this for a sec...

You can get one of these tanks on Ebay for 30.00 Buy It Now, but with a 48.00 shipping charge. That's the current scam. Let's see...that's 78.00 total. I bought one some time ago, and the actual shipping was 12.95.

So my guess is the actual cost of these tanks are between 25-30 dollars, and the seller get their profit off the shipping charge. God I hate bootleg sellers. Learn from my mistake. For buying a bootleg tank, I bought a couple of Tamiya 1/16 RC tanks as atonement.

Pitiful, really. The Chinese have invented and created, many beautiful grand things. But now, all they do is churn out garbage copies.
Yes!!! Hen Long is NOT a Marui "OEM", not even close. Their tanks are close to being fragile POS as you can get. And to add insult to injury, many of their product pics are of the Tamiya kits they tried to clone. As for R/C, when they break - not if - you will have a poor 1/16th static model.

Now... if you poke around, you will find the Wasan or Trumpeter T34/85 1/16th scale kit in an R/C version. Not as great an R/C as Tamiya, but better than the Hen Long junkers by a thousand miles. And, great looking kits too, should the R/C system ever go FUBAR.

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Post by tderespino » Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:15 am

anyone got one of these,, I know there was a thread a while ago and someone said these fit in good with 1/18th armor....tom

http://www.hobbyzone.com/rc_other_hobby ... 1_tank.htm

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Post by miniature-art » Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:26 am

tderespino wrote:anyone got one of these,, I know there was a thread a while ago and someone said these fit in good with 1/18th armor....tom

http://www.hobbyzone.com/rc_other_hobby ... 1_tank.htm
I have one of these. It look ok, if you were not after a 100% accurate model of an M1A1. In terms of it's off road abilities, it's not all that great.
The wheels have no suspension, and the tracks have a tendency to shed off the sprockets. It's only sutiable for indoor use.

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Post by flpickupman » Wed Nov 30, 2005 6:09 am

I would also recommend a Tokyo Marui airsoft tank. I've found the easiest way to distinguish a real Marui from a Hen Long copy is that Hen Longs use a rechargeable battery pack. Tokyo Mauris do not. I have the Abrams, and they are well worth the money. If you look around, you can find them for not much over $100. As far as Hen Long is concerned, I would recommend their 1/30 Sherman. It's inexpensive (about $20) and a lot of fun. You also get a decent amount of run time before you have to recharge.

Here's a link for about cheapest price I've seen the Sherman.

http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid ... A3&cat=TOO

Just put in your e-mail, and they'll send you a note when they're back in stock. Image
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Post by miniature-art » Wed Nov 30, 2005 10:57 am

If anyone is interested in the modern Marui Abrams tank, I have a website here:

http://miniature-art.tripod.com/m1a2abrams/

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Post by flpickupman » Wed Nov 30, 2005 11:10 am

So that's you? I looked through that site about a month or so ago right around the time I bought my Abrams. The detail on that tank is just fantastic! Especially the scratch built stuff. You have a lot more patience than I ever would. Simply outstanding. Image
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Post by CW4USARMY » Wed Nov 30, 2005 11:27 am

Hey Bobby,
Great Web site. Thanks for sharing!

VR,

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draw your own conclusions

Post by khatean » Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:47 pm

http://www.foren.de/system/thread-carag ... 13009.html

Somebody better send an email to them Germans and tell them they are wasting their money. LOL.....

I enjoy my Hen Long Pershins as much as my Tamiya Tiger.

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Re: draw your own conclusions

Post by GooglyDoogly » Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:27 pm

khatean wrote:http://www.foren.de/system/thread-carag ... 13009.html

Somebody better send an email to them Germans and tell them they are wasting their money. LOL.....

I enjoy my Hen Long Pershins as much as my Tamiya Tiger.

Hmm...isn't that kind of saying, "I enjoy driving my Pinto as much as my Porsche."

To each his own, I guess...Although I could not possibly imagine how you could enjoy a Hen Long Tank as much as a Tamiya. :P

Got any pics of your Tamiya Tiger with the Pershing?

As to the Germans, if they want to waste their money on bootlegs, let them. I admire their attempts at making their Hen Longs look decent.

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Post by flayrah » Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:39 pm

OK, I'm new to the world of R/C tanks, but could someone tell me what makes the Hen Long tanks inferior to the 21st? I'm not talking about the more sophisticated Tamiya or similar, I'm only looking at spending under $80 for a Christmas toy. From what I see, the Hen Long appear to have more features, independant suspension, and overall "look" good - and the 21st have had many problems reported (along with some success stories, but it sounds hit-and-miss). But in just a couple of days there have been a lot of bad comments about Hen Long. What should I know about this before deciding on a purchase??

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Post by KAGNEW » Wed Nov 30, 2005 3:19 pm

in our club we have 6 of those "o so bad junk tanks"
we have a 4 acre battle field in my back yard and they are no worse than then the hi price spred. and the nuguys to club can pratice with them, before spending the big bucks.
some of us old fa***s like them also because u can go at ramming speed and not ruin the good stuff.
i think they are good starter toys.
i know this will start another series of negitive attacks, but so be it
and bring them on!
we can all meet at Danville Va. and see who's running in the end

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Post by digger » Wed Nov 30, 2005 4:35 pm

KAGNEW wrote:i know this will start another series of negitive attacks, but so be it and bring them on!
Let's not take these posts too seriously. It is hard to read tone in text so I can see how disagreement and sarcasm together can be construed as a 'negative attack,' but they shouldn't be. Nothing on here should be personal. :wink: Carry on... 8)

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Post by ww2collecter » Wed Nov 30, 2005 6:03 pm

Here are the ones I really would like to get, but there a few thousand :shock:
http://www.mark-1-tank.co.uk/index-1.html

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Post by aferguson » Wed Nov 30, 2005 6:42 pm

Holy Cow! are those nice....

"....if i were a rich man......"
i never met an airplane i didn't like...

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Post by KAGNEW » Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:10 pm

as long as we are dreaming
this site has had me dreaming a long time
www.interdacom.ru/~tanks/frmain.htm
these are the big boys toys we all dream of

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Post by khatean » Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:26 am

GD quote:
Hmm...isn't that kind of saying, "I enjoy driving my Pinto as much as my Porsche."

To each his own, I guess...Although I could not possibly imagine how you could enjoy a Hen Long Tank as much as a Tamiya.

Got any pics of your Tamiya Tiger with the Pershing?

Yes, you are right, my Pinto, aka $75 Snow Leopard with smoke and sound is as fun to play with as my Porshe, aka $399 2 Channel Porshe Turrent King Tiger purchased in 1998. I just missed the full option stuff by a year. I do plan to get the full option so I can play with the rest of the guys in the club, Bay Area Tankers, just as soon as I can scrounge up the $450+.
I too believed the Hen Long was junk until I joined this group

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MaruiTankGroup/

They started out as the name implies and now most of the talk in that group is about the newer 1/16 Hen Long stuff.

If you need more info about the mechanics and customization of the Hen Longs see Wild Willy's website

http://www.customrcmodels.com/Tanks/

Willy is a master with RC and he plays with and sells those cheaper Hen Longs too. If anybody can be most informative about the subject it would be him.

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Post by GooglyDoogly » Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:17 pm

That's the thing, Khatean. The majority of those who advocate Hen Long tanks are those who heavily modified their tanks. Some replaced theirs with Tamiya gearboxes, some even added special custom made gearboxes, some added metal suspensions, metal sprockets, wheels, etc to make them run well. They put so much new stuff into the tank, it's not fair to call them Hen Longs anymore. They are now Tamiya-lite.

If you know a lot about RC, then you might have some fun with these tanks. If you are hoping to get a Hen Long out of a box and have fun with it...good luck.

The original poster of this thread is new to the RC world, so I DON'T recommend a Hen Long tank that would 98% stop working 2 hours after it is taken out of the box.

I would like to accept your offer KAGNEW of pitting a stock Tamiya King Tiger against a stock (not modified in ANY way) Hen Long tank, and see who run last. But we live coast to coast from one another. My Hen Long Pershing gets stuck driving through 2-inch tall grass, because the weak plastic sprockets couldn't handle grass build up.

Willy's awesome. I got his reduction gears on my Tiger I and it's great, my beast rolls like the real one.

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Post by khatean » Fri Dec 02, 2005 12:59 pm

Googly,
We did diverge from what wwIIcollector asked. It is true that Hen Longs are challenging to maintain and that will be discouraging to someone new to the hobby. The price of a Tamiya can be very intimidating too.
I would highly recommend the VSTANK PRO with IR Battle. These are just about flawless with great Japanese design.

http://www.vstankusa.com/

These are Tokyo Mauri 1/24 scale with VSTANK badging and without the airsoft gun.
Our club doesn't sanction shooter toys (even though I have some) and many stores and hobby shops have the same policy. Independent suspension, optional link'd tracks, sound and full function.
These can be purchased at Tower Hobbies or possibly your local hobby shop for around $99. ToyEast is also a reliable Hong Kong vendor.

I think someone mentioned the WSN T34/85. $75 to $110 depending on who you go with. My only complaint is that you will want to open up the tank and switch the motor wires at the controll board. (Very easy since they are connectors). This is because you want the right stick contoller to control the right tracks and vis-a-versa. Also with independent suspension and pin track links.

Hobbyco 1/16 - I have one. It was fun but the tread shreaded after several days of use. Also it has rigid suspension.

Big caution with any RC tank. None are any good in mud, water. Dirt will eventually work its way into the moving plastic parts and destroy it over time. Special care must be taken with the gearbox's especially if they are open like just about every 1/16 made. Dirt and gears, whether plastic or metal don't mix.

No matter what, you will have to learn how to tear it down and make repairs, that just life with RC anything. Join a club or a board with whatever tank you choose so you can learn from some elses mistakes or success.

Hope that helps and Happy Tanking

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Post by KAGNEW » Sat Dec 03, 2005 12:30 pm

hey guys don't get me wrong. i didn't mean a Henlong and a Tamiya would go toe to toe. i meant a henlong is a good starter tank, because of price, and most guys no in a coulple of hours of playing if they want to get in the big time like the rest of us.
and to Googly Doogly. do you ever go to any of meets around the country?
maybe we could meet and swap stories
someone told me there is going to be a big RC meet next year(2006) in Reno or Vegas i don't remember which.if i can get there maybe we could each bring our favorite tanks and run them
my wife and i are both pilots and we have 1 aircraft flying so we can end up anywhere.

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