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Screwby.
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Re: 1/18 Scale Horten Ho-229 Build. Start Pics 4-6-11 !!
YT wrote:Screwby.
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Re: 1/18 Scale Horten Ho-229 Build. Start Pics 4-6-11 !!
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Screwbypickelhaube wrote:YT wrote:Screwby.
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A word invented by Stafford in Generation Kill meaning either "that sucks" or "that's cool".
In this case cool, sorry I have been listening to the Generation Kill audio book...
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This is a cool pic...
I'm looking forward to this, but in 1:18.
I'm looking forward to this, but in 1:18.
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Re: 1/18 Scale Horten Ho-229 Build. Start Pics 4-7-11 !!
That Hortons engines are wrong.
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It's a PM kit from Turkey.........
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Jnewboy wrote:That Hortons engines are wrong.
Yes they are.
I think this is somebodies idea of a night fighter. It has an elongated canopy.
But it still looks cool.
Also in the New Capt. America trailer they showed a glimpse of the flying wing in flight. Just the front of it.
I wonder if it will be close to scale or like the Indy Jones flying wing . That one is as far from scale as you can get.
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Re: 1/18 Scale Horten Ho-229 Build. Start Pics 4-7-11 !!
Interesting to see the build. I wondered how you did it. Looking forward to the finished product.
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Re: 1/18 Scale Horten Ho-229 Build. Start Pics 4-7-11 !!
I finally got the nacells roughed in. They are rough as a cob but here are a few progress pics.
By far the intakes have been the most challenging thing on the project.
I think I captured the look of them. They definatly give the 229 it's signature look.
I fidel farted around for about a day trying to use the 262 intakes but just trashed them and made all new. I wished I had done this from the start . It would have saved me a day
These pics are the result of 3 days of work
Daddy's little helper giving moral support
By far the intakes have been the most challenging thing on the project.
I think I captured the look of them. They definatly give the 229 it's signature look.
I fidel farted around for about a day trying to use the 262 intakes but just trashed them and made all new. I wished I had done this from the start . It would have saved me a day
These pics are the result of 3 days of work
Daddy's little helper giving moral support
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Re: 1/18 Scale Horten Ho-229 Build. Start Pics 4-10-11 !!
You're doing great! looks very good!!
Re: 1/18 Scale Horten Ho-229 Build. Start Pics 4-10-11 !!
That looks great! In progress it looks like the one at the Smithsonian!
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It's coming along nicely!!
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Re: 1/18 Scale Horten Ho-229 Build. Start Pics 4-10-11 !!
great work!
I'm struck by the differences in what I'm doing with my 3D printing experiments and the traditional methods you use. With the 3D printer, if I can model the shape on the computer, I can pretty much make it in the printer. But I have to deal with the surface finishing issues created by the layering method used by the printer to lay down plastic on every piece created by the printer -- even if it's an exact copy of a piece I've already created. With the traditional mold-making technique, creating the original master shape is painstaking and time consuming, but once it's finished, each piece created from it in a mold made from the master is as smooth as the master.
Some day desktop personal 3D printing will be at a level where the layering isn't so much of a problem but, until then, the traditional mold-making process is still the gold standard.
I'm struck by the differences in what I'm doing with my 3D printing experiments and the traditional methods you use. With the 3D printer, if I can model the shape on the computer, I can pretty much make it in the printer. But I have to deal with the surface finishing issues created by the layering method used by the printer to lay down plastic on every piece created by the printer -- even if it's an exact copy of a piece I've already created. With the traditional mold-making technique, creating the original master shape is painstaking and time consuming, but once it's finished, each piece created from it in a mold made from the master is as smooth as the master.
Some day desktop personal 3D printing will be at a level where the layering isn't so much of a problem but, until then, the traditional mold-making process is still the gold standard.
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Re: 1/18 Scale Horten Ho-229 Build. Start Pics 4-10-11 !!
I sense alot of filler in your future. lol
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Re: 1/18 Scale Horten Ho-229 Build. Start Pics 4-10-11 !!
Things are moving along slow but sure. I have the engines all done and I all I need to do id work on surface details. Before I do that I need to work on the bottom of the aircraft so I do not bugger up the finished detail on top.
The way I am building the main section it splits in half. Top and bottom . The seam will fallow the main wheel fairings in back and cut across the bottom engine fairings in front. It will spit aprx. in the middle of the wing rib lengthwise.
In construction I need to make this separation so I can check alignment and such so I am securing the halves with screws so I do not have to glue and split to open and close the section as needed.
There will be no way to cast the center section in one piece. So it will have to be cast in sections and joined with screws.
You kit building guys will take your own path to use the screws or go without and use CA glue.
For you full build guys.
Would you guys want the center section accessible with screw heads showing or glued shut ?
Remember the center section is huge. Once it is glued shut you have no way to access the cockpit or wheel wells if the situation were to arise.
There is no way to make plugs like 21st has done to hide there screws.
So you full build guys need to give me some input on this situation.
The way I am building the main section it splits in half. Top and bottom . The seam will fallow the main wheel fairings in back and cut across the bottom engine fairings in front. It will spit aprx. in the middle of the wing rib lengthwise.
In construction I need to make this separation so I can check alignment and such so I am securing the halves with screws so I do not have to glue and split to open and close the section as needed.
There will be no way to cast the center section in one piece. So it will have to be cast in sections and joined with screws.
You kit building guys will take your own path to use the screws or go without and use CA glue.
For you full build guys.
Would you guys want the center section accessible with screw heads showing or glued shut ?
Remember the center section is huge. Once it is glued shut you have no way to access the cockpit or wheel wells if the situation were to arise.
There is no way to make plugs like 21st has done to hide there screws.
So you full build guys need to give me some input on this situation.
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Re: 1/18 Scale Horten Ho-229 Build. Input Needed !!
I would prefer screws throughout. Folks who want to can cover them for a completely scale-ish appearance, while others can leave them visible -- at least at first.
I'm curious why you say there's no way to do screw covers -- can't the screw position be somewhat recessed to accommodate a screw cover?
I'm curious why you say there's no way to do screw covers -- can't the screw position be somewhat recessed to accommodate a screw cover?
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gburch wrote:I would prefer screws throughout. Folks who want to can cover them for a completely scale-ish appearance, while others can leave them visible -- at least at first.
I'm curious why you say there's no way to do screw covers -- can't the screw position be somewhat recessed to accommodate a screw cover?
Yes but from experiance digging the plugs out messes up everything
Ruining the finished surface.
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I guess all I can say is how in the hell do you do this?, one after another you put these customs out, someone needs to hire you, your kits could be mass produced
The thing I love about this site is being able to see what can be done, it just amazes me the skills that are shown here.
The thing I love about this site is being able to see what can be done, it just amazes me the skills that are shown here.
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Re: 1/18 Scale Horten Ho-229 Build. Input Needed !!
I am definitely not a "full build guy" but here is my 2 cents
Make screw cover plugs. Just like 21st century did. But.....
Dont make them tight. Make them intentionally smaller than the hole so that when you turn it upside down they all fall out.
Why? Two reasons.
1. It can be taken apart and put back together at will.
2. It can be shipped in sections to its final destination.
I know, what are you talking about? I dont want them to all fall out when I turn it over....
Here is what you do... use a non-drying clay, (modeling clay) put a little dab on each screw head, almost to the top of the hole, then put your cap on (lightly)
The clay will hold your cap on with just enough force, removal is easy, a finger nail or hobby knife can pop it right out without damage to the plane or plug, and you can still get to the screw, just stick the screw driver right through the non-drying clay.
PS non-dry clay cleans up beautiful with baby wipes if needed.
Make screw cover plugs. Just like 21st century did. But.....
Dont make them tight. Make them intentionally smaller than the hole so that when you turn it upside down they all fall out.
Why? Two reasons.
1. It can be taken apart and put back together at will.
2. It can be shipped in sections to its final destination.
I know, what are you talking about? I dont want them to all fall out when I turn it over....
Here is what you do... use a non-drying clay, (modeling clay) put a little dab on each screw head, almost to the top of the hole, then put your cap on (lightly)
The clay will hold your cap on with just enough force, removal is easy, a finger nail or hobby knife can pop it right out without damage to the plane or plug, and you can still get to the screw, just stick the screw driver right through the non-drying clay.
PS non-dry clay cleans up beautiful with baby wipes if needed.
Re: 1/18 Scale Horten Ho-229 Build. Input Needed !!
This build is looking very impressive. You are a very talented model builder. Not that you need me to tell you that.
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Re: 1/18 Scale Horten Ho-229 Build. Input Needed !!
Totally agree!Jnewboy wrote:Here is what you do... use a non-drying clay, (modeling clay) put a little dab on each screw head, almost to the top of the hole, then put your cap on (lightly)
The clay will hold your cap on with just enough force, removal is easy, a finger nail or hobby knife can pop it right out without damage to the plane or plug, and you can still get to the screw, just stick the screw driver right through the non-drying clay.
PS non-dry clay cleans up beautiful with baby wipes if needed.
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Re: 1/18 Scale Horten Ho-229 Build. Input Needed !!
Your "little helper" looks a lot like mine. Doing a nice job can't wait to see more pics as you progress. I think having the screw holes covered will look better.
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Re: 1/18 Scale Horten Ho-229 Build. Input Needed !!
Everybody is missing the point.
The kits will be up to the builder as to how you are going to join your model. You guys can screw them together or glue them.
This is for the guys who are getting the full build.
Either they will be glued together permanently so you have no access OR joined with screws so you do.
That is the question permanent or screwed together.
The kits will be up to the builder as to how you are going to join your model. You guys can screw them together or glue them.
This is for the guys who are getting the full build.
Either they will be glued together permanently so you have no access OR joined with screws so you do.
That is the question permanent or screwed together.
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Re: 1/18 Scale Horten Ho-229 Build. Input Needed !!
Can't you make the cockpit open?
See this this link for ideas.
http://www.helmo.gr/index.php?option=co ... &Itemid=35
See this this link for ideas.
http://www.helmo.gr/index.php?option=co ... &Itemid=35
Colonel "Madman" Maddox: Let me hear your guns!
Captain Wild Bill Kelso: My what?
Colonel "Madman" Maddox: Your guns! Ack, ack, ack, ack, ack!
Captain Wild Bill Kelso: [fires his airplane's guns] AHHHH!
Captain Wild Bill Kelso: My what?
Colonel "Madman" Maddox: Your guns! Ack, ack, ack, ack, ack!
Captain Wild Bill Kelso: [fires his airplane's guns] AHHHH!
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Re: 1/18 Scale Horten Ho-229 Build. Input Needed !!
VMF115 wrote:Can't you make the cockpit open?
See this this link for ideas.
http://www.helmo.gr/index.php?option=co ... &Itemid=35
Yes the cockpit glass will slide open and closed.