No spot Tomcat. Realy ?

exether_mega · Post by **exether_mega** » Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:58 am

Hey guys,

as it was mentioned earlier, there is a "no spot" VF-84 Tomcat now aviable.

No Spot ? Realy ? Well, no spot but some kind of strange camo :

http://www.48specialmodels.com/e-seiten/e02new.html

phil

Sabrefan · Post by **Sabrefan** » Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:20 pm

Wow, we go from the "spot cat" to the "camo cat".

tmanthegreat · Post by **tmanthegreat** » Thu Aug 26, 2010 3:39 pm

Well, its better than the spots, but not by much. The good thing for me is that now I'm not so annoyed about them re-releasing an improved VF-84 scheme. My landing gear are OK and my novice repainting skills are now officially better than the JSI factory

Why the heck JSI can't get something like this right - twice in a row - is beyond me

tko211 · Post by **tko211** » Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:34 pm

Weathering has always been extremely difficult for China to produce. Some factories and companies like BBI did a better job of it but even those at times were heavy handed. This is one of the reasons why 21C typically produced planes with little to no weathering.

The F-14 is a tough subject in this regard and the difficulties of getting a factory of individual workers to perfect it by hand, in an assembly line fashion is difficult at best. The new Black Knights has the best weathering of all the F-14's and it's on par with my BBI F-16 and F-18. I am of the opinion that they should stick with what ever paint process and level of detail that is currently on the Black Knights (light shading along panel lines) and just forget trying to do the multi shade panel in panel weathering. It just ends up looking spotted or squiggle camo looking.

snake · Post by **snake** » Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:01 am

tmanthegreat wrote:

Why the heck JSI can't get something like this right - twice in a row - is beyond me

Simply incredible.

They have replaced the spots with wavy lines.

Although it is more subdued, it is still terrible.After all the criticism, I am very disappointed in this latest attempt at the F-14 from JSI.

Obviously they have no idea about weathering, so why not just do "factory fresh" paint.

I shudder to think of what they might do to the F-15, and Su27.

AMERICAN_GRENADIER · Post by **AMERICAN_GRENADIER** » Fri Aug 27, 2010 7:19 am

If the paint accents were along the rivets it actually would be correct. i spent 14 months in the gulf aboard the USS Ranger with VMA-121 USMC and after about 3 months at sea all the planes had to be hand sanded and repainted in many areas along the rivets. i myself did this after getting in a bit of trouble in Thialand. if you found a bubble in the paint one guy sanded,one sprayed a yellow anti rust primer and the last guy sprayed the final gray coat. the gray never matched it was always darker

dragon53 · Post by **dragon53** » Fri Aug 27, 2010 7:45 am

I hope the new VF-154 Limit Edition F-14 doesn't have this weathering problem.

Bruzilla · Post by **Bruzilla** » Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:02 am

AMERICAN_GRENADIER wrote:If the paint accents were along the rivets it actually would be correct. i spent 14 months in the gulf aboard the USS Ranger with VMA-121 USMC and after about 3 months at sea all the planes had to be hand sanded and repainted in many areas along the rivets. i myself did this after getting in a bit of trouble in Thialand. if you found a bubble in the paint one guy sanded,one sprayed a yellow anti rust primer and the last guy sprayed the final gray coat. the gray never matched it was always darker

I was thinking the same thing. Our P-3's looked a lot like that after a deployment. The Airframes folks would just sand away willy-nilly and spray paint over the sanded area.