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Post by ketelone » Wed May 12, 2010 7:00 pm

Caveat Emptor..... Buyer beware! Such a manufacturer would be welcome, but I too have my doubts. This entity fails to answer any of the questions posed. He continues to beg the question. What products are available? How much? Who is to be contacted? No real information has been provided. Is this a ploy for someone or something to requst production? Hopefully this new member will do some explaining....
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Post by dunshinmodel » Wed May 12, 2010 7:11 pm

tparkhere wrote:These planes look very familiar.

In the past, these similar planes were shown on “themodelhangar.com” (Unfortunately, the site is down. Otherwise, I would have attached discussion link). The Chinese “dude” asked for an opinion about his planes. Forum members ordered planes from him, and members NEVER received planes. Many members lost money.

I am not accusing this gentleman of a fraud. I am not even saying that this gentleman is the same scam artist. All I am saying is that anybody can give him opinion about his planes. But, if you are going to order planes, please be aware.
I am not going to sell those models, we are just a manufacturer of this model who produced it.
For the Donart, just one company named Beck's xxxx ,and someone got the money and go away, but as far as know, the Donart finally send the products to that company and get everything clear, SO, IT'S not many member lost money, my friend.
the Donart were our customer and they've been in business over 10 years,it's a main supplier of Chinese army force, so i don't think they will do anything like that.

i hope this mistake will end here.

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Post by dunshinmodel » Wed May 12, 2010 7:18 pm

ketelone wrote:Caveat Emptor..... Buyer beware! Such a manufacturer would be welcome, but I too have my doubts. This entity fails to answer any of the questions posed. He continues to beg the question. What products are available? How much? Who is to be contacted? No real information has been provided. Is this a ploy for someone or something to requst production? Hopefully this new member will do some explaining....
Mr.Caveat, i think you still not understand my meaning of the post.
All the products i posted were produced by our factory, but it invested by our customer. so we called it OEM project. I am not going to sell it,because our customer who invest this model will sell it.
and for the cost, quantity,i've sent the private message to the guys who asked it.

Also, much customer visited my factory like Century wing's manager Mr.Yoshi, Inflight200, Gemini jets ,and other customer.
Make it shot, like the Panzerstahl model we displayed at our website, but we cann't sell it due to we have agreement with our customer, but i can show the retail price or product availabity.

Anyway, i wish you can visit our website, not everyone have the 3D drawing and engineering drawing to show. i hope all the explaining is clear for you guys, and i wish the doubts end here now.

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Post by tparkhere » Wed May 12, 2010 8:21 pm

dunshinmodel wrote:
tparkhere wrote:These planes look very familiar.

In the past, these similar planes were shown on “themodelhangar.com” (Unfortunately, the site is down. Otherwise, I would have attached discussion link). The Chinese “dude” asked for an opinion about his planes. Forum members ordered planes from him, and members NEVER received planes. Many members lost money.

I am not accusing this gentleman of a fraud. I am not even saying that this gentleman is the same scam artist. All I am saying is that anybody can give him opinion about his planes. But, if you are going to order planes, please be aware.
I am not going to sell those models, we are just a manufacturer of this model who produced it.
For the Donart, just one company named Beck's xxxx ,and someone got the money and go away, but as far as know, the Donart finally send the products to that company and get everything clear, SO, IT'S not many member lost money, my friend.
the Donart were our customer and they've been in business over 10 years,it's a main supplier of Chinese army force, so i don't think they will do anything like that.

i hope this mistake will end here.
No problem. We, diecast collectors, will help with your questions and if asked, will provide assistance. But, members should never order directly from manufacturer in China. If manufacturer provide great diecast at a reasonable price (ie. Hobby Master), diecast will be available in USA. Otherwise, there is a reason why products are not sold in USA.

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Post by snake » Wed May 12, 2010 8:40 pm

tparkhere wrote:
dunshinmodel wrote:
Absolutely agree.

No offence,but if the model is worthy,it will be sold internationally,by reputable dealers.Who will be more than happy to carry it.

Just some bad experiences with Chinese dealers in the past have "soured" things a bit.

Wish you,and your company,nothing but the best,and hope to see you in the future. :D

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Post by dunshinmodel » Wed May 12, 2010 8:55 pm

tparkhere wrote:
dunshinmodel wrote: I am not going to sell those models, we are just a manufacturer of this model who produced it.
For the Donart, just one company named Beck's xxxx ,and someone got the money and go away, but as far as know, the Donart finally send the products to that company and get everything clear, SO, IT'S not many member lost money, my friend.
the Donart were our customer and they've been in business over 10 years,it's a main supplier of Chinese army force, so i don't think they will do anything like that.

i hope this mistake will end here.
No problem. We, diecast collectors, will help with your questions and if asked, will provide assistance. But, members should never order directly from manufacturer in China. If manufacturer provide great diecast at a reasonable price (ie. Hobby Master), diecast will be available in USA. Otherwise, there is a reason why products are not sold in USA.
Agreed, if they can find a good dealer in U.S.A, i am only incharge of production, Actually order from manufacturer is not a economy way due to the heavy shipping cost.

Actually, i show the retail price to someone in this forum by private message, but now i think it's ok to tell you ,As far as know, the 1/48 Su30 retai price is RMB800 = USD117.0 in China , i gotta believe this price will be higher if they sell in U.S.A ,
it seems a little higher in international market, also the bigger model will caused more shipping cost, i think this is the reason why Chinese model cann't enter international market.

Well, i have a idea that for the future project, it would be acceptable if we make the engine will be detachable from the nozzle of Jet just like the real airplane, and there is some detail on engine like pipe, hydraulic system. what you guys think?

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Post by dunshinmodel » Wed May 12, 2010 8:58 pm

snake wrote:
tparkhere wrote:
i hope so, i also hope we can release some 1/72 scale model with special fuction to other model in the future.

also thanks for your advice, cool man.

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Post by Epap » Thu May 13, 2010 2:17 pm

I'm still confused about the purpose of this thread. On the one hand we are told that the factory will not create its own line of diecast models and sell them direct or, I assume, via distributors. On the other hand, we are told that a 1:72nd scale line might be considered in the future. If the latter is actually a possibility----which I find hard to believe----why aren't we being asked questions that relate more directly to such a venture-----like what kinds of warbirds should be considered, what display options are mandatory, panel line depth, washes, sturdier stands, packaging, prices, etc.? As I said, I'm confused. Where is this thread supposed to be going?

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Post by dunshinmodel » Thu May 13, 2010 10:53 pm

Epap wrote:I'm still confused about the purpose of this thread. On the one hand we are told that the factory will not create its own line of diecast models and sell them direct or, I assume, via distributors. On the other hand, we are told that a 1:72nd scale line might be considered in the future. If the latter is actually a possibility----which I find hard to believe----why aren't we being asked questions that relate more directly to such a venture-----like what kinds of warbirds should be considered, what display options are mandatory, panel line depth, washes, sturdier stands, packaging, prices, etc.? As I said, I'm confused. Where is this thread supposed to be going?
what you wanna know, shot me a private message.
the products i posted is not going to sell by my factory, i just wanna show the engineering technology to the professional and get comments or feedback, do you understand? because all the design, production and mold were created by my factory, we wanna improve the products better to get more international business.

Is there anything wrong for a probably 1/72 scale model and current model sales? i've stressed on the point that you can ask the company like Donart ,Redfalcon or Panzerstahl about the packaging, price and other specification of the model. It's not my work to sell the model for them.

i thought you gotta know the meaning of OEM factory. For example, we are the kitchen of those brand, and they are dinning room, no one will like to eat in Kitchen room.

i hope you understand what i am talking about. If not ,please re-study my original topic that i bring some new stuff here, and i hope you guys can give me your valued comments and suggestion.

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Post by Tinman » Sat May 15, 2010 3:04 pm

Not sure where this thread is headed, but I do like the look of the 1/24 J-10. Bet that's a pretty penny.

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