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Jericoeagle1 · Post by **Jericoeagle1** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:13 pm

Badcat has announced that they have been notified by 21st that the F-104 was "on the water" with an expected delivery date of 07/26 Preorders are being taken now. Get them while they last! Just ordered mine.

Post by **aferguson** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:29 pm

Great news!

OnWu · Post by **OnWu** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:04 pm

Just received my Historic Aviation Catalog in the mail and the F-104 is shown as preorderable for ---$69.95

BCs Starfighter is showing ---$46.95

Hmm, that's quite a difference of opinion.

Birddog · Post by **Birddog** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:30 pm

With the prices shown there, I wonder if it will still sell for $40.00 at Wal-Mart?

Gunner · Post by **Gunner** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:52 pm

Quite possibly, but I'm still going to order a couple from BCA, just to save me the hassle of running around looking for them...

I figure that my time is worth more than the cost difference will be.

Tinman · Post by **Tinman** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 8:20 pm

Placed my preorder! I'm with you, gunner!

Website · Post by **Teamski** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 1:10 am

I'm gonna stick with WM on this one. Searching is half the fun!

-Ski

Gunner · Post by **Gunner** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:13 am

Searching is half the fun!

Not with the traffic I have to deal with in DC...

The "close" Wal-Mart is only about 6-7 miles away, but it takes at least 30 minutes to get there, and can take as much as 90 - ONE WAY.

The "far" Wal-Mart is about 20 miles away and takes AT LEAST an hour to get to, and can take as much as 2 hours - ONE WAY.

Last night, when I told my wife about the upcoming release, for the first time, she questioned the appropriateness of adding something to my collection. Admittedly, I have something like 50 boxes of 1/6 and 1/18 stuff packed (and that doesn't count some of the aircraft), but she's always been supportive, or at least tolerant, of my collection. I guess I'm going to have to "thin the herd" down some once we move and start unpacking, and I guess I'm going to have to wait on my F-104...

digger · Post by **digger** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:37 am

Birddog wrote:With the prices shown there, I wonder if it will still sell for $40.00 at Wal-Mart?

I was told at TF that it would be $40 at WM. But with BCA only asking 7 bucks more I can completely understand saving time, hassle, gas, hope and whatever else it takes to find XD at Wallyworld.

WGP Klaus · Post by **WGP Klaus** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:37 am

Teamski wrote:I'm gonna stick with WM on this one. Searching is half the fun!

-Ski

QFT

not to mention possibly getting it at a mismarked or clearance price, as had been the case when a local WM received a shipment (2 cases) of 1:18 AC prior to Xmas, and immediately put them on the floor at clearance prices. If failing memory serves me correct, they did the same when they started stocking the 1/6 Jeep and Kublewagens.

KAGNEW · Post by **KAGNEW** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:22 am

HI
I ORDERED ONE FROM BADCAT LAST NITE
BUT WILL SEE IF WALLY GETS THEM FOR 2ND AND 3RD

I
WANT TO TAKE ONE AND REDO IT AS A STARFIGHTER AIR SHOW TEAM JET

Gunner · Post by **Gunner** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:34 am

I'm planning to do one in NASA colors, which is, admittedly, an easy paint job, but cool nonetheless...

KAGNEW · Post by **KAGNEW** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:50 am

I HAVE BEEN TO TWO AIRSHOWS TO SEE "STARFIGHERS
HAVE 7 ROLLS OF FILM & 1 8MM TAPE,PLUS A MEMBER OF YAHOO F-104 CLUB SO HAVE LOTS OF PIX

Birddog · Post by **Birddog** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 7:27 am

I agree with the time and gas saving for the difference in price. I just hope that Bad Cat will offer the camo version at that same price when it is available for purchase.

Website · Post by **Teamski** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 7:30 am

digger wrote:
Birddog wrote:With the prices shown there, I wonder if it will still sell for $40.00 at Wal-Mart?
I was told at TF that it would be $40 at WM. But with BCA only asking 7 bucks more I can completely understand saving time, hassle, gas, hope and whatever else it takes to find XD at Wallyworld.

Don't forget about shipping. I know the 2 Corsairs I preordered will cost $20 just for shipping, so I'll wait on the 104s.... I know that I probably won't find the Corsairs locally at TRU, so I have no choice there.....

Oh, and a very big welcome to the board Kagnew!!! Happy to have you here......

-Ski

KAGNEW · Post by **KAGNEW** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:12 am

THANX
i was a member of old 21st club & groundpounders yahoo club but got lost in the shuffle somehow. i build large scale models 1/32 & 1/24
when they started these 1/18 models i was in heaven. i take them apart and redo them with extra detail.looking at 75th Rangers pix last nite the 104 is just sceaming for a 1/18 cast resin J79 engine sticking out of tail.

digger · Post by **digger** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:10 am

Ski....not everyone is as crazy as we are.....buying 2 is one thing but pre-ordering two is not nec. the norm...or is it

pokeyjtc · Post by **pokeyjtc** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:19 pm

I preordered my F-104 from Badcat because I don't want to wait until Christmas for them to show up at my local Wal-Marts. I might buy the repaints if I see them at WM or if they have some on clearance.

tmanthegreat · Post by **tmanthegreat** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:54 pm

This is a little sooner than expected and is great news! In a certain way, I am very tempted to order one from BCA, but as my local Hobbytown store always gets these planes at the same time as BCA, I think I'll wait until they show there and save on shipping. Given what has happened with a couple of other recent 21c releases, the F-104 could very well show up a week early!

Besides, I'm still undecided on this plane - I am really running out of display space

...but then I said that about the ME-109G, Panzer IV, and WC-63!

Morian Miner · Post by **Morian Miner** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:58 pm

Aside from the first three repaints (the silver, Vietnam, and the Kreigsmarine), have we heard of definite future variants?

tko211 · Post by **tko211** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:02 pm

Nope, 21st is keeping that kind of info close to the vest. I think it might be wise for them to do these 3, wait a little then do a couple more down the road. I think things sell a little better when there aren't 5 different ones to choose from all at once? my 2 cents...

mikeg · Post by **mikeg** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 1:35 pm

its certainly easy to give BCA a credit card # and the price is fair, but some of us have turned the recon act at the wm's into an art. Every once in a GREAT while, you notice the new box ends, usually on the top shelfs, and advance quickly with tunnel vision toward the objective-- A new batch of 104's or a forgotten box of black 109's; o well, you never know.. And yes I have ordered from BCA and SBP, only to find some items cheaper at WM at a later date. BUT THERES NOTHING WORSE THAN MISSING OUT-Whats the secret to knowing when to pick up the phone with cc# and when just to endure the daily stops at the local WM's.

OnWu · Post by **OnWu** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 2:11 pm

Let's look at the "waiting for WM" scenario:

BEST POSSIBLE RESULT:

Wal Mart gets the 104 before the end of the month and you live walking distance from the store. YOU SAVE 7 BUCKS.

WORST POSSIBLE RESULT:

Drive to a dozen Wal Marts, spend $30 on gas, spend 8 hours of time, and still find nothing. Log on to the Internet and find the dealers sold out. YOU GET NOTHING.

Assuming you are a serious collector, which option represents the most rational gamble?

Aviatornut.com · Post by **Aviatornut.com** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 6:44 pm

You are always welcome to order from me.

especially if you live in sothern California www.Aviatornut.com

KAGNEW · Post by **KAGNEW** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 6:49 pm

i learned when the spitfires and P-40s were new to get at least the first ones from Bad Cat.
and i work next door to a Wally world. my dealerships parking lot connects to wallyw. in fact i eat lunch at Big mac inside it and still have missed planes i wanted. this WM never got the P-47s.
so if i hadn't preordered from Bad Cat i never would have gotten them
plus the TRU never got the BBI F-18 or F-16s. so Bad Cats preorders saved me again
just my 2 cents

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