My Fantasy XD plane..........

supersonicfifi · Post by **supersonicfifi** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 3:07 pm

it s funny i read alot of magazines either US or English magazin and of course French ones and i cant help notice the differences in treatment between the 3 futurs jet F22 - Eurofighter and Rafale each country tend to present its own product fairly and denigrate the other (maybe in fact only the F22 stand out in a class on its own) i fell in this trend 2 years ago when the English AIR FORCE MONTHLY organized a price for the best name to the EUROFIGHTER now TYPHOON : i sent the appropriate name : RAFALE - LOL

typicaly FRENCH ! thanksp51 for the skyraider picture this one could be a top seller because the paint is amazing - you can hang so much underside - this model is based in France and could be a hit here at airshows !

USCGSARdog · Post by **USCGSARdog** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 3:28 pm

I would like a few "UGLY", modern planes. How about an A-6E, S-3 or of course, an A-10? I'll take any kind of helo as well. On second thought, if its a 1/18 scale aircraft, I'll take it.

-Rob

supersonicfifi · Post by **supersonicfifi** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 3:46 pm

both A10 and skyraider should be considered in a marketing terms this could be instant hits (the saME APPLY TO THE FLIGHTSIM COMPUTER WORLD )

Threetoughtrucks · Post by **Threetoughtrucks** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 4:10 pm

A-10, Me-110, B-25, B-26

Those bad boys could convert me to a plane guy.

I pre-order an Avenger over a year ago and I'm still waiting and I gotta say I can't hold my breath much longer.

TTT

digger · Post by **digger** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 4:39 pm

The only way we're seeing an A-10 is in 1:21 scale.....

But seriously, that plane will be 2 & 1/2 feet long and almost 3 feet wide - how many people aren't going to maybe grab one?

Huh? Maybe

Yea, you might....If you have a 1:30 F-18 by PTE than you know what I'm saying.....

Morian Miner · Post by **Morian Miner** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 4:48 pm

Since we're in Fantasyland, let's have some fun. And if I could just have one (besides the Zero), I would say an SR-71 or MiG-21.

WWII
DeHavilland Mosquito
B-17
Zero
Avenger

Cold War
Bell X-1
X-15
F86 Sabre
Hind
SR-71
MiG-21
MiG-29
SU-27

Modern
F-22

Birddog · Post by **Birddog** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 4:49 pm

Don't count out seeing an A-10 in 1/18 scale. 21st has produced one already. I think that with time and enough encouragement, one will be put out there in 1/18 for us. BBI or 21st.

Tinman · Post by **Tinman** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 6:59 pm

Purely fantasy, I'd love a B-29.

For something more possible, the Skyraider gets my vote. Would help round out the XD Viet Nam line. Of course, so would an F-4, or an A-6, or an A-7.

digger · Post by **digger** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 4:41 am

Birddog wrote:Don't count out seeing an A-10 in 1/18 scale. 21st has produced one already. I think that with time and enough encouragement, one will be put out there in 1/18 for us. BBI or 21st.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see one, but I say you will see around 10 planes before you see that. Maybe if the Me-110 sells like hot cakes down the line they will be encouraged to go with it. I don't think people realize how much bird an A-10 is. You can't just look at wingspan and length - I think the thing would be over a foot tall, and just a whole lotta plastic

Just boxing that thing would be interesting

. I'd be surprised if bbi makes another in 1/18 after they make a HUGE one in 1/21.

The guys who should be excited are the extreme wings fans. This line is obviously taking off and is a better platform for 21st to try less popular or BIGGER birds. It also seems like a test market for 1:18 and that is why I always contend they will get a Zero before 1/18. I also say the first Russian, French & Italian birds all land first in 1/32. Lastly, I'm predicting our first multi-engine bomber in 1/32.....I might even have to get that one

supersonicfifi · Post by **supersonicfifi** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 5:24 am

Digger ! i'm new to this hobby what are you talking about ? 1:21 A10 ? 1:30 F18 ? wher can i see all these and what is this new line of 1:32 airplanes ?

im really curious now !

digger · Post by **digger** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 5:37 am

Supposedly bbi will release a 1/21 scale A-10 next month that will be more for kids and less for "us"

While I rather a nice 1/18 scale model I think many people will settle for 1/21 - it will be HUGE.
Power Team Elite makes a tiny, lousy F-18 that is so underscale that I said 1/30 - who knows what it actually is.
The 1/32 line of airplanes are at stores here in the States, at some small retailers (BCA), and on ebay!

The 1/32 scale has Me-262, and will soon have a Zero, and other countries' fighters as well (I suspect).

supersonicfifi · Post by **supersonicfifi** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 5:50 am

Thanx for the explications i know connect what you said with the stuff ive seen on internet ! i can't wait to see this A10 ! and you are right i was surprised to see the real A10 at an airshow (larger than a DC 3 !!!!)
is there any preview photo of this "littl" beast ?

Website · Post by **Teamski** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 6:14 am

Nope, no photos as of yet. I'd laugh if they release a full 1:18 scale A-10. You never know if they are doing the "false information to mislead the competition" sort of thing. 1:21 just doesn't sound right. It doesn't fit any reasoning at all. It's not like bbi is putting out PTE sort of stuff. I'd wait to see on this one......

-Ski

supersonicfifi · Post by **supersonicfifi** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 7:28 am

And what about an F 100 here again there is a lot of fancy camo of 50s and vietnam era ! theperfect match with a proppeller skyraider !
i ve just bought a vietnam F100 "dick Rutan" from matchbox (1:72) and it would kick ass in our favourite scale !!!! (i ma flightsim nuts and ther is a game called strike fighter Wings Over Vietnam and you can fly thos F104; F 100; F8 and others PHANTOM unbelivieble !)
THe F100 could be hit too !

tmanthegreat · Post by **tmanthegreat** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 9:16 am

You just might be right about the F-100. The two Matchbox ones were either sparsely distributed or sold out quickly at Target stores (probably some of both). I know with the first release of the Matchbox F-104 and F-100, I only saw them at one Target store and then only once! They are on ebay and usually sell for more that the retail price, and sometimes 2-3 times as much.

What I am trying to point out here is that there is an element of popularity for these early jets, lots of repaint possibilities, and they just look darn good! Word is that we are going to see a 1:18 F-86, Mig-15 and ME-262 from 21c this year (or probably two years from now) and I think 21c may just be surprised by how well those sell!!

Post by **aferguson** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 9:29 am

The BBI A-10 that's coming out as a Target exclusive is not 1/21. From the quoted dimensions it's about 1/28. It has push button sound effects and is just a toy.

digger · Post by **digger** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 9:36 am

Oh...

Let's hope Ski is right and that it's a misinformation campaign.....after all, they can't call it Elite Force in that case (or use the "real as it gets" packaging) and that was what was asked about (or not?).....but that would be real misleading to Dirk who had it on his sight as 1:18, no?

Post by **aferguson** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 9:43 am

It's not being called Elite Force either. It's being marketed under another brand name.

BBI is a giant company with many diverse product lines. Elite force, both 1/6 and 1/18 is only a teeny tiny portion of what they do. It is highly unlikely this is disinformation... merely a disappointment.

However, that's not to say they won't (or aren't) making an Elite Force 1/18 scale A-10 as well. We've just heard nothing concrete about it at all yet.

This 1/18 lull from BBI has me concerned about their future plans in 1/18 but i figure it may not be a big deal since 21c has been pretty quiet for the passed few months as well and they have lots of great plans for 1/18.

So this lull may be just 'one of those things' and caused by a variety of reasons; not the least of which is the huge number of Star Wars toys taking up shelf space right now..

digger · Post by **digger** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 9:48 am

Let's hope they do the A-10 as Elite Force at some point...it would be the biggest gamble yet by them due to sheer size.....
Btw, Elite Force is MOST of what bbi is, it's just not most of what Blue Box is.

75th Ranger · Post by **75th Ranger** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:23 am

I would like to see:

F-14 "Tomcat"

A-6 "Intruder"

A-10 "Warhog"

those three can seriously create Havoc to any enemy force!

Post by **aferguson** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:24 am

BBI=blue box interntaional

digger · Post by **digger** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:22 am

...part of BLUE BOX HOLDINGS LTD.

75th Ranger · Post by **75th Ranger** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:25 am

bbi = Be bored indefinetely!

since their new products take a whole year to show up!

Where are the WWII 1/18 figures????

Post by **aferguson** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:58 am

My point being it's the same damn company....lol.

Well, a rose by any other name....would be just as slow...

digger · Post by **digger** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 12:04 pm

I hear you - just saying that the real money makers for them are licensed products made by the Parent - no matter how many planes we buy we can't compete with Hello Kitty.

BBI has limited products, and imo Elite Force is the only real winner (Cy Girls? Maybe.

). I just can't believe they would take our 1/18 scale world by storm and then walk away....I can't help but think something is in the pipes....as you guys said, the problem is flushing it out....

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My Fantasy XD plane..........

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A10 and skyraider

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THANX DIGGER

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