Japanese 1:72 late war weapons and aircrafts

demonclaw · Post by **demonclaw** » Sun Sep 21, 2008 9:33 am

I stumbled upon these models made by Boford and they really look amazing

http://www.boford.co.jp/html/tokubetsu.html

hworth18 · Post by **hworth18** » Sun Sep 21, 2008 9:54 am

Nice,
Curious that most of these are Kamikaze weapons. I can't find any other info on these are they even available?

demonclaw · Post by **demonclaw** » Sun Sep 21, 2008 10:09 am

hworth18 wrote:Nice,
Curious that most of these are Kamikaze weapons. I can't find any other info on these are they even available?

I was digging up some more about these models and I found a site that have the set for 47$ ,just ordered one

http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10060234

hworth18 · Post by **hworth18** » Sun Sep 21, 2008 10:24 am

demonclaw wrote:
hworth18 wrote:Nice,
Curious that most of these are Kamikaze weapons. I can't find any other info on these are they even available?
I was digging up some more about these models and I found a site that have the set for 47$ ,just ordered one

http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10060234

Look forward to seeing yours when you get it.

demonclaw · Post by **demonclaw** » Sun Sep 21, 2008 10:47 am

hworth18 wrote:
Look forward to seeing yours when you get it.

Me too , I also got the last one

I also found some more info and detailed pics of all the models including the secret one

http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... n%26sa%3DG

I really love the suicide diver , the japanese sure knew how to make suicide wepons

Post by **aferguson** » Sun Sep 21, 2008 12:41 pm

according to wikipedia suicide divers were actually used in combat a bit. Creative, if nothing else..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_S ... its#Divers

hworth18 · Post by **hworth18** » Sun Sep 21, 2008 2:08 pm

I could do without the big gawdy hinges on the wings of the Kikka.

demonclaw · Post by **demonclaw** » Sun Sep 21, 2008 2:39 pm

hworth18 wrote:I could do without the big gawdy hinges on the wings of the Kikka.

Yeah , I'll remove em and glue together the wings

olifant · Post by **olifant** » Sun Sep 21, 2008 9:50 pm

WTH is that on the picnic table?

demonclaw · Post by **demonclaw** » Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:38 pm

olifant wrote:WTH is that on the picnic table?

Ohka engine and the propeller for the Shinyo type 1 suicide boat

Panzer_M · Post by **Panzer_M** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 1:05 am

Surprised they didn't do the Clone of the 163,Mitsubishi J8M

Planes of Fame, out west has one of 2 remaining in the world.

Panzer_M · Post by **Panzer_M** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 1:13 am

Those mini-subs made me think of these

1/35 Verlinden German Mini series

Bieber

Seehund

Molch

Neger..a german slang term about the same as our N word

Seehund & Neger

demonclaw · Post by **demonclaw** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:23 am

Panzer_M wrote:Surprised they didn't do the Clone of the 163,Mitsubishi J8M

Planes of Fame, out west has one of 2 remaining in the world.

This collection only covers kamikaze weapons and the Mitsubishi J8M is an interceptor . What makes this set so intresting is that theres hardly any kits out there for these weapons and I never thought I would see a whole collection with pre-built models

Panzer_M · Post by **Panzer_M** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:42 am

ah, I never assumed the Kikka was going to be a used in a suicidial way, I thought it was being developed as a bomber interceptor.

I know the one example in DC was captured/found without cannon, but I figured it would use 20mm or 30mm cannons in the same config as the 262.

Post by **aferguson** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:30 am

i've never heard of the kikka being intended as a suicide plane. Kind of an expensive and sophisticated piece of technology to use in such a way but i guess its speed and range made it appealing for that role.

The collection isn't just of suicide weapons.....its suicide weapons that would have been used in the defense of the home islands of Japan..

demonclaw · Post by **demonclaw** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:44 am

aferguson wrote:i've never heard of the kikka being intended as a suicide plane. Kind of an expensive and sophisticated piece of technology to use in such a way but i guess its speed and range made it appealing for that role.

The collection isn't just of suicide weapons.....its suicide weapons that would have been used in the defense of the home islands of Japan..

"The mission of the Kikka was that of a fast attack bomber, much like the Me262 ( though in the case of the Me262, it was added in after the aircraft was designed as a fighter ). It was also to be used as a suicide attacker as well"

http://j-aircraft.org/xplanes/hikoki_files/kikka.html

Btw , I will get 10 boxes so there will be one random model over that I will sell . Is there anyone who are interested in a specific model?

hworth18 · Post by **hworth18** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:19 am

I did say "most" of these...

Rowsdower · Post by **Rowsdower** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:14 am

What is the first aircraft? Cool looking plane!

T

Stug45 · Post by **Stug45** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:58 am

Rowsdower wrote:What is the first aircraft? Cool looking plane!

T

Its a Nakajima Ki-115

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakajima_Ki-115

Panzer_M · Post by **Panzer_M** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:02 pm

another of what-if Japanese planes I'd be interested to see. Kyūshū J7W1 Shinden

Rowsdower · Post by **Rowsdower** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:36 pm

Stug45 wrote:
Its a Nakajima Ki-115

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakajima_Ki-115

Thanks!

demonclaw · Post by **demonclaw** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 1:20 am

I wonder if the the japanese lacked the technology and competence do develop better mini subs , torpedo boats , and combat frogmen or if they just lacked the time to do it . I know that the lack of experienced pilots made it impossible for the japanese to create a modern naval bomber force that would be a lot more effective than kamikaze attacks

Panzer_M · Post by **Panzer_M** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 1:29 am

well the Japanese never made a SMG, they copied the Bergmann Mp18 SMG of WWI vintage, but those never saw combat for but a handful on Iwo or Okinawa..most were kept on Japan for home defense.

Same thing about a AT-Gun, the 37mm and 47mm were all the IJA had for the majority of the war.

demonclaw · Post by **demonclaw** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 1:56 am

Panzer_M wrote:well the Japanese never made a SMG, they copied the Bergmann Mp18 SMG of WWI vintage, but those never saw combat for but a handful on Iwo or Okinawa..most were kept on Japan for home defense.

Same thing about a AT-Gun, the 37mm and 47mm were all the IJA had for the majority of the war.

Thats because the prioritized the navy and the airforce since they knew that those two forces was the key to victory in the pacific , It would also be impossible for the japanese industry to maintain a more modern army .

demonclaw · Post by **demonclaw** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:55 am

Well I finally got my set today , unfortunately the set was not complete (the Nakajima Ki-115 is missing ) so now I got two dublets (the two suicide torpedos pictured below) . So if anyone is interested in those two contact me . I'll post some pics later