Indiana Jones 1/18 items this year

Tambo · Post by **Tambo** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 11:28 am

I'll say it in another language.

Mucho sucko Hasbro.

Stug45 · Post by **Stug45** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:53 pm

On Tuesday, George Lucas revealed to MTV that Indiana Jones 5 will not revolve around Shia's character (Mutt Williams), as he previously proclaimed.

Asked whether he still considered Mutt Williams a strong enough character to drive an “Indiana Jones” film, Lucas was adamant that Indy just isn’t Indy without Indy. Or, to put it another way: No.

“Indiana Jones is Indiana Jones. Harrison Ford IS Indiana Jones,” Lucas said, dismissively adding about a character he helped create that, “If it was Mutt Williams it would be ‘Mutt Williams and the Search for Elvis’ or something.”

This is good news hopefully no more mutt figs.

flayrah · Post by **flayrah** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 11:47 pm

Strange find at two Wallys today. Both had the young Indy as Boy Scout; one had Young Indy and Indy with MP40 but nothing else from this wave; AND there was absolutely NO room on the pegs for any other figures, so it didn't look like anyone had searched through them. Either the other figures were cherry-picked by the Wally stock guy (possible); or they just didn't empty the case and put the 'extras' in the back stock (probably not); or hasbro is shipping cases with partial new wave, and partial old wave, assortments (my guess).

JamesW · Post by **JamesW** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:29 am

flayrah, In what area is this Wally's? I've checked many wallmart's in the BayArea and Sacramento. Not a hint of anything from the wave. pegs are jammed with older waves. SO I doubt I'll see any here.

Personally, I was so disappointed in the last indiana jones film (even Harrison Ford can't win with crap like that) I only want another film if it means more good action figures (soldiers officers, Nazi's & Russians please).

flayrah · Post by **flayrah** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:33 am

Another Wally today with multiples of Young Indy, Mp40 Indy, plus a couple Dr Jones Senior (Sean Connery). Nothing else from the assortment, so it seems these are being shipped in different cases.

- JamesW - PM sent-

Stug45 · Post by **Stug45** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 5:09 pm

Saw mutt with motorcycle & cairo thug 2 pack today

both look lame.

dandaman · Post by **dandaman** » Sat Aug 09, 2008 9:03 pm

I have been to quite a few WalMarts over the past week and I would like to make an observation.

It appears as if they're putting even more on the pegs. On different aisles. In addition, they now have them stacked straight up in these carton-looking things.

Does anybody know what I'm talking about?

In any event, in any given Walmart, there are probably 250+ IJ figures on the pegs which includes 2-packs. And I won't even go into the over-abundance of IJ vehicles.

flayrah · Post by **flayrah** » Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:11 pm

I'm finding the same thing, pegs and pegs in the figure aisle; 'overflow' aisle; and hanging racks. Today one store had an entire end cap filled with the figures, but STILL no Grail Knight, Elsa or Vogel. I'm wondering if these were only produced in limited quantities when the line was cancelled, and now they are being short shipped?

I did see a full case; on each Indy with Mp40; Dr Jones Sr; Young Indy, and everything else was first wave. Not encouraging.

Lance Quazar · Post by **Lance Quazar** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:53 am

^The line is not cancelled. That said, I'm amazed you found Henry, he seems to be the most in demand. Or at least tied with Vogel.

Jesse James · Post by **Jesse James** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:34 am

Hasbro's got clogged pegs but not a cancelled line by any means. They showed a new Raiders wave for 2009 at SDCC afterall, so the line's not dead. It's just slow... I'd expect something to either be done to free up the logjam, or just expect distribution to be spotty for a while...

Personally I've never seen a TLC figure myself, but I'm not paniced to the point I'd shell out big bucks for any of them yet either. Patience is key.

Sadly, Hasbro may not keep the line around long... The recent Q&A didn't bode well given some of their answers, like Marcus Brody being a very longshot to get a figure for instance.

The line's alive though... Hasbro really needs to consider a way to revive it some, even if it means a buy-back on some CS figures that are pegwarming. It's not unheard of and might get things flowing again.

digger · Post by **digger** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:48 pm

Not too PO anyone, but I wouldn't mind if it went away. I find the figures have limited use for my interests, are not particularly detailed or well done, and they are expensive. After all, if 21C and bbi can get cool figs down to $5 MSRP, why can't the behemoth Hasbro? They can, they're just gouging. I much rather hasbro resources go into 25th Ann. Joes which fly off pegs everywhere.

The last IJ movie does not deserve a figure line anyway.

Razor17019 · Post by **Razor17019** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:48 pm

I noticed in Target yesterday that the IJ figs were up to 7.99 each now.
They were trying to compete in the same price range with WM 6.94 - 6.99
But 7.99 is ridiculous.

I like the figures and have used them with XD. But, Digger does have a point with Hasbro. Why can't they come down to 21stC and BBI's price point of 5 bucks?

flayrah · Post by **flayrah** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 2:48 pm

I guess I should have grabbed that Dr Jones Sr when I saw it.....

Other than possibly the Germans and 'maybe' Russians, there's not much in the line I've seen so far I can use. And of the ones I've seen, multiple paint problems. Have to agree with previous posts, pricing is too high and quality uneven.

olifant · Post by **olifant** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:22 pm

Agreed on cost. Only figures I am in the market for are Vogels for XD and Grail knights for customizing...

Jesse James · Post by **Jesse James** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:01 pm

are not particularly detailed or well done,

Really? Man, I gotta disagree with you on that point Dig... They're as detailed and quality as the SW figures are, which are really outstanding.

I agree the price sucks, but keep in mind too this is a licensed property. $6.99 I'm ok with on IJ but I like to think they could be $5.99... If they go $8 though, forget it. SW is going to $8 and that's BS too... Hasbro's blaming oil, but as oil goes down I don't expect SW figure prices to follow... It's gouging, but to an extent... They're just not gonna be $5 if they're from an expensive license like SW or IJ...

You wanna talk gouging, then look at the 25th GI Joes... Hasbro owns GI Joe, so that's where the excuseless pricing is.

I love the IJ line, and think the figures are quite nice, but I think Hasbro has just too much of a logjam going right now and it's because KotCS wasn't quite as popular as they'd hoped. Not that it did poorly either, but in the toy aisle it's fizzled and Hasbro needs to think about the ability of collectors to keep a LIMITED line of IJ figures going.

Hasbro's problem is they always preach that kids are the mainstays of any toy line while there's proof out there that collectors CAN maintain a line in usually a scaled back capacity. The issue then is Hasbro wanting to NOT keep things in a limited capacity, but rather meeting larger profit goals. Thus needing higher sales, and that kid factor.

I'm all about IJ continuing but they've got to scale things back a little.

GI Joe won't profit from IJ being cancelled by the way... IJ is being produced by the Star Wars team at Hasbro. GI Joe is a wholely separate team with their own budgets, and issues. IJ probably has more an impact on SW, but really it hasn't shown any negative to SW so far... The only negative about Star Wars is price hikes to $8 a figure, which is just disgusting as it doesn't come close to matching % increases in other toy lines in the industry. I'm hoping WM maintains the $7 and forces Hasbro to rethink the MSRP they've set and which some stores are starting to follow.

paulpratt · Post by **paulpratt** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 2:43 pm

Jesse James wrote:
Really? Man, I gotta disagree with you on that point Dig... They're as detailed and quality as the SW figures are, which are really outstanding.

I think Star Wars is one of the most over hyped action figure lines ever. Every possible joint on a figure needs articulation at this price point. Plus, some weapons that don't bend worse than Gumby would be nice. The IJ line follows the Star Wars lines foot steps perfectly: inaccurate sculpts, subpar articulation and shoddy quality accessories. Repacks for Star Wars figures are way out of hand also.

Jesse James · Post by **Jesse James** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:13 pm

Well, repacks are why you get obscurity...

Yarna D'Al Gargan exists as a figure because they re-release figure after figure that are proven sellers (Vader, Clones, etc.). Hasbro's been pretty candid that their re-release strategy has fueled a lot of their obscurity, and that translates to the $20 ship pricepoint as well where repaints/re-releases have given way to ships fans asked for like the Sith Infiltrator that didn't have the best numbers supporting its creation.

As far as inaccurate sculpts... How so? Who's inaccurate in either line right now? Maybe that's a matter of opinion but in general Hasbro's sculpting is pretty sharp. Likenesses are off here and there, while others are spot-on. I generally have more of a beef with paintjobs than sculpt likenesses.

And once again... It all comes down to licenses. IJ wasn't cheap and I know it wasn't anywhere near what SW costs. The Star Wars brand was a multi-million dollar contract, so you're just not going to see $5 Star Wars figures anymore. Not gonna happen... Believe me, I'm the last guy to say I like paying high prices too... I think $8 is ridiculous, but $5.99 to $6.99 for the current level of quality (generally) is pretty good.

Hasbro's bumped up articulation across the board, and anyone in the hobby any length of time knows we've got it good compared to just 5 years ago or less even. It's not perfect, but it's way closer than it used to be.

We're getting 60 or more basic figures a year, and obscurity is off the chart... There's like 4 Cantina aliens coming out in a future wave alone! That's hardly anything to turn your nose at to get that many low-demand (but popular among collectors) characters in one wave. Hasbro's upped army builder numbers too (finally) after many years of drought.

13 years of a toy line that most people thought would've been dead by now isn't anywhere near overhyped. It's also steadily one of Hasbro's best lines, every year. That's pretty good numbers backing up a line that's better now in 2008 than it has ever been. I only wish this level of quality was steady since at least 2002 or so. There's a lot that needs brought up to snuff unfortunately.

As to the weapons, that's actually, supposedly, Hasbro's own "safety standards" that go beyond industry minimums. Take that as you will... Softer weapons are ok to me as they're less likely to break obviously, but I'm more irked when it's something like a large staff that winds up drooping over time. Amanaman's staff w/skulls for instance is a prime example where a rigid plastic needed used for sturdiness. It's usually not much of an issue though really. In hot water the weapons take their original shape/form and unless they're large and droop on their own, they usually can be "fixed" to normal.

olifant · Post by **olifant** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:27 pm

I would agree with JJ. I only wish our military toys had the quality most SW figures have nowadays. Only BBI comes close in my opinion.

Jesse James · Post by **Jesse James** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:24 pm

I agree, but I'd add the FOV Germans too. They're pretty slick figures... Their Americans need a bit of work to be that high in quality.

21st can do great, but they haven't for a while. Some of the BotB figures were fantastic though, but the D-Day figures weren't quite there. They were all better on articulation but suffered various other quality issues from skin colors to loose joints and things. Love the new articulation though.

BBI's stuff is insanely detailed though. Some of the coolest.

tmanthegreat · Post by **tmanthegreat** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:16 pm

Holy of Holies...

I went into one of the outlying Wal Marts in my area and low and behold, they had newly stocked the Last Crusade figures

These are the first that I've seen in my area, having only found a partial set two moths ago in a Wal Mart some distance away. They had multiples of all the figures, including the illusive Vogel, Elsa and Henry.

I picked up enough to make a double set of each, figuring I'd open one and keep the other for ebay or trades or something. It made my day to finally find these figures in number

Stug45 · Post by **Stug45** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:31 pm

Went to wm today tons of Mutts & Belloq figs.

Stug45 · Post by **Stug45** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:55 am

Hasbro's INDIANA JONES Q&A: The Answers!

http://www.cooltoyreview.com/story/fron ... 116945.asp

no sidecar THANKS HASBRO

dandaman · Post by **dandaman** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:06 am

I think part of the issue is that the price point was set too high for IJ figures. Considering their abundance.

I would love to scoop up some more Russian soldiers (which are plentiful at my local WalMarts) but $7 a pop is a bit much. I mean, for $7 you can get a 21st Century German D-Day 2-pack.

I would probably drop the price for IJ figures to at least the $4-$5 range. Then you would see them move more.

Stug45 · Post by **Stug45** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:26 pm

IndianaJonesCollectors: First a quick follow up to the one of our questions from last session if we can. The question was asked about a Marcus Brody action figure. The response was "It is unlikely we will do a Marcus Brody figure". Did you mean for next year or did you mean ever? And if so, is there a "list" of the characters that won't be made?

Hasbro: We can't really say never, as we hope there will be another Indy film, and if it comes to pass there will almost certainly be a Marcus Brody figure.

IJC: Can we expect a 3.75" Belloq in white suit and Panama hat or a 3.75" Toht and German Mechanic in 2009?

H: We did show images of a couple of these figures at Comic Con, which are planned for early Spring 2009. This is depending on retail support for IJ continuing through Spring 2009, something that we will be evaluating with our retail partners in the coming months.

IJC: Weeks ago you confirmed you confirmed that an Ark Ghost was coming in a deluxe set next year. Last Q&A session you changed your answer to no Ark Ghost was planned. Can you please clarify?

H: We did have plans for an Ark ghost, but now it is no longer in the plans.

IJC: What is the status of the Dietrich figure that was confirmed months ago in a Q&A? He was missing from the new Raiders wave announced at Comic Con.

H: He was planned to be in a later wave in 2009, not in the wave that was shown.

We have to wait for a next film to see more figs

momaw nadon · Post by **momaw nadon** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:37 pm

Hey, if anyone is interested in some Russian soldiers or something like that, my area has them in force.

My offer would be I can pick up some of these or any other figure I can for anyone for $5 each, and I get the relic and sticker.

Or if you want the relic. I would do $6, minus the sticker.

I'm hoping to clear out some of the figures warming the pegs in my area. I know there are mostly figures from wave 1 & 2 in bulk here. If anyone is interested let me know. The way this line is going I don't think it will go much longer pass Christmas, so I how to see the Temple of Doom figures once. If I can find and Last Crusade figures while doing this I'll pick them up if anyone needs them too. Thanks
momaw nadon

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