Smoke 2 is cool
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				mosquitomania
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Smoke 2 is cool
I picked up a 21st Century Smoke 2 F-104 today at TRUs, and I really like it. The Vietnam era paint scheme looks cool on the Starfighter. I know this plane has been out awhile, I just had not seen one till now. What do you guys think of Smoke 2?
			
									
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						MOSQUITOMANIA:
I passed up on an F-104 Smoke II at ToysRUS for $40---I tink BBI's 1/32 Vietnam F-104 will be better---but maybe at a higher price.
			
													I passed up on an F-104 Smoke II at ToysRUS for $40---I tink BBI's 1/32 Vietnam F-104 will be better---but maybe at a higher price.
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				tmanthegreat
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I initially passed on this plane - they appeared at my local Wal Marts over the summer of 2006 then disappeared.  That is until one resurfaced last year when they were having the 1:18 aircraft clearance sales.  I picked it up for $25 and it was certianly worth the price!  
I really like the scheme - it gives us at least one 1:18 scale plane in the Vietnam-era tri-color camoflauge that can go along with all the Hueys, Mutts, M-48s and figures, especially since an F-4 or A-1 in similar livery seem so distant. It is perhaps the most plain-looking of the F-104s, but that in itself is a plus as not all F-104s had bright red tails or tiger stripes
  The pilot's painted helmet is also pretty cool.  Unfortunantly, there's no Mig-17, or Mig-21 for it to chase, but the Chinese "tiger stripe" plane goes well enough in a display with the "Smoke II" F-104.
			
									
									I really like the scheme - it gives us at least one 1:18 scale plane in the Vietnam-era tri-color camoflauge that can go along with all the Hueys, Mutts, M-48s and figures, especially since an F-4 or A-1 in similar livery seem so distant. It is perhaps the most plain-looking of the F-104s, but that in itself is a plus as not all F-104s had bright red tails or tiger stripes
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				pickelhaube
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Re: Smoke 2 is cool
Yes I do.mosquitomania wrote:I picked up a 21st Century Smoke 2 F-104 today at TRUs, and I really like it. The Vietnam era paint scheme looks cool on the Starfighter. I know this plane has been out awhile, I just had not seen one till now. What do you guys think of Smoke 2?
I still would rather have BBI's upcoming 1/32 Vietnam F-104 over 21st's 1/18 F-104  because BBI has more detail and weathering. 
Also, 21st's F-104 is too big-----I'm saving room for 21st's 1/18 Steve Ritchie F-4D.
 
(Actually, I'm speculating that the upcoming Badcat/BBI exclusive 1/32 plastic plane will be a Ritchie F-4 retool of BBI's F-4J VF-84 Jolly Rogers. Admittedly, it's wishful thinking---but it keeps me going).
			
									
									
						Also, 21st's F-104 is too big-----I'm saving room for 21st's 1/18 Steve Ritchie F-4D.
(Actually, I'm speculating that the upcoming Badcat/BBI exclusive 1/32 plastic plane will be a Ritchie F-4 retool of BBI's F-4J VF-84 Jolly Rogers. Admittedly, it's wishful thinking---but it keeps me going).
you'll like it, it's quite nice.   I have mine doing a napalm pass across my living room floor.  I was going to get another one and pose it dodging a SAM, but i'm going to get an r/c F-4 and use that instead.
Smoke II is highly recommended and is one of those planes that if you don't get it, 5 years from now when they're $200+ you'll kick yourself.
			
									
									Smoke II is highly recommended and is one of those planes that if you don't get it, 5 years from now when they're $200+ you'll kick yourself.
i never met an airplane i didn't like...
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photos of smoke II
here is my report done in 2006 .... still true ! 
viewtopic.php?t=4788&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20
it was at the time my final comment :
"my final comment is that with moveable leading edge flaps and tail + fully fonctinal landing gear + incredible look + history (first vietnam plane in our scale) and captain america at the control , you can have one : actually it s a MUST have item "
			
									
									viewtopic.php?t=4788&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20
it was at the time my final comment :
"my final comment is that with moveable leading edge flaps and tail + fully fonctinal landing gear + incredible look + history (first vietnam plane in our scale) and captain america at the control , you can have one : actually it s a MUST have item "
1/18 mirage 2000 & RAFALE should i say more ?
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				pickelhaube
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AFERGUSON:
OK, I agree, but based on my own experience, the 1/18 Smoke II--$40 isn't available at all ToysRUs stores---I visited several ToysRUs stores and found only one had a single Smoke II---up on a shelf away from the other models where most people wouldn't see it. I had to ask a clerk to get a ladder and get it for me so I could look at it. I decided not to buy it because it was too big (I'm running out of room and am saving space for 1/18 planes I want more than the Smoke II). So I was just suggesting for those who can't find the 1/18 Smoke II at ToysRUs, the BBI will be upcoming.
A 1/32 F-104 is better than no F-104 at all.
			
									
									
						OK, I agree, but based on my own experience, the 1/18 Smoke II--$40 isn't available at all ToysRUs stores---I visited several ToysRUs stores and found only one had a single Smoke II---up on a shelf away from the other models where most people wouldn't see it. I had to ask a clerk to get a ladder and get it for me so I could look at it. I decided not to buy it because it was too big (I'm running out of room and am saving space for 1/18 planes I want more than the Smoke II). So I was just suggesting for those who can't find the 1/18 Smoke II at ToysRUs, the BBI will be upcoming.
A 1/32 F-104 is better than no F-104 at all.
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aferguson wrote:well i'm sure if they're interested in a smaller version, they know where to look...
stop polluting the 1/18 forum with tiny toy info..
I spit Pepsi out of my nose and all over the puter when I read that.
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						Captain Wild Bill Kelso: My what?
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i was interested !
i thought the 1/32 F104 was a rumour ! i hope that BBI seeing the success of their F4 and other jets will go for 1.18 
anyway thanks for the head up i will check better the 1.32 pages
			
									
									anyway thanks for the head up i will check better the 1.32 pages
1/18 mirage 2000 & RAFALE should i say more ?
						



