1/32 F-4 IN STOCK!!

echoes · Post by **echoes** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 4:55 pm

Looks great

http://www.badcataviation.com/fphjorovf1bl.html

tmanthegreat · Post by **tmanthegreat** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 4:56 pm

Got my shipping e-mail, which means I could have the plane in hand tomorrow for a review

It does look awesome

olifant · Post by **olifant** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 5:08 pm

Got my notice that this has been shipped. WHOO HOO!

For all you naysayers about price, I wanted to point out that a 1/32 model (from Hasegawa?) of the F-4 is running $130 out of the Squadron/Signal catalog. This is price unshipped, unassembled and unpainted. In my book that makes the $59.98 a bargain.

I can guarrantee you that when you see the photos of this baby you will be green with envy!

tko24 · Post by **tko24** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:54 pm

What, no wing drop tanks?!! If it doesn't include the drop tanks I might change my mind about getting one.What about other ordinance? I would hate if they went cheap on it. Anyone get one yet?

hworth18 · Post by **hworth18** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:10 pm

I will probably get one....

Sabrefan · Post by **Sabrefan** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:26 pm

I have one coming, I am really looking forward to this model. It looks great!

Rowsdower · Post by **Rowsdower** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 9:36 pm

Damn, no way I can afford that this month.

Jagdpanther · Post by **Jagdpanther** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:11 am

I never Pre-Ordered one but I dont no if ill buy one either.

vulgarvulture · Post by **vulgarvulture** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:11 am

A few more more pics:

http://www.pamsdream.com/servlet/StoreFront

vmf214 · Post by **vmf214** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:10 am

olifant wrote:Got my notice that this has been shipped. WHOO HOO!

For all you naysayers about price, I wanted to point out that a 1/32 model (from Hasegawa?) of the F-4 is running $130 out of the Squadron/Signal catalog. This is price unshipped, unassembled and unpainted. In my book that makes the $59.98 a bargain.

I can guarrantee you that when you see the photos of this baby you will be green with envy!

AMEN brother! I thought $60 was pretty darn reasonable myself!

immeww2 · Post by **immeww2** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:43 am

Looks

tko24 · Post by **tko24** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:07 pm

I'm sorry, the F-4 was legendary for carrying ordinance. This thing doesn't even have the drop tanks or outer wing pylons. It's an incomplete aircraft to me. It may be a good deal for some, but to me it would bug me to spend the $59.00 and feel like it didn't come with all the parts that it should have included. I could rob parts from my 1/32 Tamiya F-4J, but why should I have to? Imagine the Admiral A-1 Skyraider coming without ordinance when it's released. I've changed my mind, I won't be buying one now unless a later release includes the extras.
JMO

CW4USARMY · Post by **CW4USARMY** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:12 pm

vulgarvulture wrote:A few more more pics:

http://www.pamsdream.com/servlet/StoreFront

Thanks for the link vulgarvulture. Their shipping was so reasonable I went ahead and ordered an F-4 from them as well as the Pegasus V-1. See what you did?

Sabrefan · Post by **Sabrefan** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:34 pm

I am always amazed on how much people complain in this forum. If you don't want the new F-4 model, don't get it.

vulgarvulture · Post by **vulgarvulture** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 3:17 pm

Thanks for the link vulgarvulture. Their shipping was so reasonable I went ahead and ordered an F-4 from them as well as the Pegasus V-1. See what you did?

Dear CW4USARMY:

Thank you for your recent business.

Sincerely,

Pam
(a/k/a Vulgarvulture)

(Just kiddin'. Glad it worked out for you!)

tko24 · Post by **tko24** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 3:51 pm

I won't get it. It's my right to complain( I never have before on this forum by the way). I have eagerly waited a long time for this F-4 and I'm disapointed they went cheap on it. I shouldn't have to rob parts from a $100.00+ model kit to complete this one. Just curious, did they include 2 crew figures with it. I would be glad to pay 20 bucks more if they included the extras. They do with the 1/18 scale why not in 1/32? I'm surprised no else is unhappy about it?

hworth18 · Post by **hworth18** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:57 pm

tko24 wrote:I won't get it. It's my right to complain( I never have before on this forum by the way). I have eagerly waited a long time for this F-4 and I'm disapointed they went cheap on it. I shouldn't have to rob parts from a $100.00+ model kit to complete this one. Just curious, did they include 2 crew figures with it. I would be glad to pay 20 bucks more if they included the extras. They do with the 1/18 scale why not in 1/32? I'm surprised no else is unhappy about it?

TKO,
I think the reason more people aren't saying anything is that the wing tanks were just an option.. They weren't required to fly missions and most pics of F-4Js that I have don't have the wing tanks mounted.. I agree that it would've been better with them, but it isn't a deciding factor in buying one for me.. My whole quandry is that I REALLY want it, but can I justify buying it???

BTW, its great to see you posting, I hope you and yours are doing well....

CW4USARMY · Post by **CW4USARMY** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:11 pm

vulgarvulture wrote:
Thanks for the link vulgarvulture. Their shipping was so reasonable I went ahead and ordered an F-4 from them as well as the Pegasus V-1. See what you did?
Dear CW4USARMY:

Thank you for your recent business.

Sincerely,

Pam
(a/k/a Vulgarvulture)

(Just kiddin'. Glad it worked out for you!)

ROTFL!

tko24 · Post by **tko24** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:23 pm

Sorry for my ranting. I havn't posted in a long time. I visit here often. I mainly collect 1/18 scale aircraft, but I stopped because I don't have the room anymore. I also model aircraft and 1/350 warships. I will make an exception for the Admiral Skyraider and I was for this one. On long range strike missions the Phantoms did carry the drop tanks. On CAP missions they usually carried just the centerline tank. Navy Phantoms flew both. I'll probably just build my Tamiya kit and wait to see what BBI does with later versions.
Regards
Tom

dragon53 · Post by **dragon53** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:52 pm

What are the chances of ToysRUs and Target.com getting the new F-4J?

Rowsdower · Post by **Rowsdower** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:38 pm

Wish this came out like last month. December is kinda harsh money-wise with all the gifts and what not.

AlloySkull · Post by **AlloySkull** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:32 pm

Honestly it looks better in BCA's photos than the original photo. I'm suprised. I think my dad pre-ordered one for my birthday in a few days, so I'm hoping it'll be here within the 10 days.

I did some measuring and if it is in fact 23.5" long, it's the same length as the 1:18 Sabre. O.O

tmanthegreat · Post by **tmanthegreat** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:19 am

I got my BBI F-4J Phantom today

Right out of the box, I am very much impressed with it!! Here's a review with some quick photos. I've not photographed every last detail about the plane, but you should be able to get a good idea of what its all about between my photos and those on the BadCat website.

Enjoy

First, the box front and back:

Here are a couple profile shots:

My example has an excellent paintscheme that is flawless! The weathering around the engines is nicely done and gives the plane a good used look. The stenciling detail is exceptional and goes down to tiny warning labels, even on the missiles. The panel detailing is excellent as well. Basically, this 1:32 scaled aircraft is just as detailed as any of the BBI 1:18 scale jets.

The overall construction is solid, however, the plane is deceptively lightweight. This is most certainly a model and not exactly a toy for anyone under 10 (or perhaps 14). Some of the parts are a tad bit delicate and will not stand up to tons of wear and tear.

As you can see, the F-4 has deep engines and intakes. There's no detail inside the intakes, but the afterburners are there!

Here's a shot of the three moving control surfaces: the outboard flap, underwing spoiler and wingtip. The wingtip is hinged and pulls out to fold up in exactly the same manner as the wingtips on the BBI F-18. The tail hook also moves. I can see the wingtips being a source of trouble on the model. They are a bit weak. They do "click" into place and mine are holding position fine, but repeated movement may weaken them (sort of like what can happen with the BBI F-18).

The landing gear on the F-4 are optional positioned, meaning that they can be displayed either in the up position or the down position. This is just like on most 1:72 models. Curiously, BBI did not make the landing gear retractable, even on such a large 1:32 plane. Perhaps it was ultimately to make the struts stronger, or to simplify the tooling, or to allow the doors to close exactly (instead of leaving the potential gap that you often get on the 21c 32x models). Some of the landing gear doors are hinged, though. The lack of retractable landing gear is my only real gripe about the plane.

All ordinance is removable and fits onto the hardpoints tightly. I, personally, am pleased with the loadout. My F-4 really needs a 1:32 Mig-17 or Mig-21 to shoot down now

The F-4 comes with two identical pilot figures (thankfully!) and they are nicely painted. The figures fit into the cockpit well. The cockpit, which I didn't get a picture of, is amazingly detailed with painted insturments, controls, ejection seats, and more. The canopies open and close easily, though they are made of rather thin plastic. I would be careful gripping them too hard...

Last but not least, a picture of the BBI F-4 Phantom with the BBI 1:18 Corsair and the 21c 32xw Corsair. The F-4 is nearly as long as the 1:18 Corsair, and just as well painted and detailed.

All in all, this is a VERY good first-release for BBI in this scale and I think it bodes well for future aircraft. Hopefully they won't just stop with the Dauntless. I can't rate it as the most perfect aircraft in 1:32 - that distinction laying with the Corgi and GMP diecast planes - however the BBI F-4 is amazing and you small-scale fans will love it

On a final note, you "1:18 only" collectors need to get out of your grind and go small. 1:32 is fast catching up to the larger scales, and in many ways exceeding them

Black_Dragon_One · Post by **Black_Dragon_One** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:17 am

Hi you 1:32 guy... i am still thinking of this...

god the landing gear.... i do not know...

every things look good.. just for the landing gear...

To me it is what make or breaks a deal...

for the price you pay you would think that they would have made a functioning landing gear....

The only reason why i do not buy a lot of the dragon stuff was because of the landing gear... i lose a lot of the extra and i want all parts of my plane be in one package...

I see to morrow... god i wish they have done a retractable landing gear....

that would have made all the different...

I hope bbi will fix this in there future release

always a retractable landing gear...

but that is my two cent

MG-42 · Post by **MG-42** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:30 am

"tmanthegreat" said : The lack of retractable landing gear is my only real gripe about the plane.

>>> * It looks to me like , that the landing gear ( is ) retractable , because you show both the landing gear deployed and retracted.

What exactly do you mean here ?

.......... but , is it still worth the price ?

* That is the question , but I will definitely be getting the Dauntless.

Mitch v MG :hornet:

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1/32 F-4 IN STOCK!!

1/32 F-4 IN STOCK!!

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