New WWII Movie - Tali-Ihantala 1944

grunt1 · Post by **grunt1** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:23 pm

Released on 12-7-2007 I think.. (European dates have the month and date switched from the way the U.S. does it)

They used a supposedly insane amount of original vehicles.

Film info:
http://www.tali-ihantala.fi/nf/?q=Lehdisto/Kuvat

Some production videos:

T-34's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItxyljJVDAI

Stugs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnJvo1RTlmY

Picture:

grunt1 · Post by **grunt1** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:40 pm

"Juonikuvaus
Tali-Ihantala 1944 on tiukasti tositapahtumiin perustuva episodielokuva Suomen itsenäisyyden pelastaneesta torjuntavoitosta, jolloin Suomen kohtalo oli yksistään sotilaidemme käsissä. Koko Pohjolan suurimpaan taisteluun osallistui yhteensä 150 000 venäläistä ja 50 000 Suomalaista sotilasta. Menetykset ja tappiot olivat musertavia linjan molemmin puolin.

Elokuvassa kerrotaan episodein yksittäisistä miehistä ja yksiköistä taistelussa, joka siitä selvitäkseen vaati paitsi onnea myös kestämään epäinhimillistä kovuutta ja raakuutta. Vain harvat selvisivät hengissä ja heistä vielä harvempi on edelleen elossa. Tämä on tarina heistä kaikista, jotka puolustivat maatamme."

grunt1 · Post by **grunt1** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:46 pm

Wikipedia to the rescue:

About the movie, in English..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tali-Ihantala_1944

About the original battle, in English..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tali-Ihantala

grunt1 · Post by **grunt1** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:54 pm

Appears to be a follow up to this 2004 film:

Beyond Enemy Lines

http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117923 ... id=31&cs=1

Col.Pickle · Post by **Col.Pickle** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:48 am

Looks sweet! Is it going to be released world wide? I hope so there hasn't been a good eastern front movie since Enemy At the Gates.

V2 MAN · Post by **V2 MAN** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:51 am

Man enemy at the gates was a awsome movie

Haven't seen it in awhile. This movie sounds great

Col.Pickle · Post by **Col.Pickle** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:59 am

ya I have Enemy at The GAtes. Great movie! Especially the river crossing (on the Volga). Poor ruskies!

ostketten · Post by **ostketten** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:52 pm

Thanks for the heads up on the Finnish movies Grunt. I ordered "Beyond Enemy Lines" recently, it's only available in PAL format (region 2) but that's not a problem for my player, many USA players will handle PAL format even if they don't advertise the fact, and the region coding can usually be "hacked" on most players. As for the "Tali Intahala" flick, I've not seen it for sale anywhere, but if you know of a source please let me know. As for "Eastern Front" movies, there is literally a treasure trove of DVD movies from Russia and the former Soviet Union available, sadly most are in Russian only, and without English subtitles, although there are a fair number that do have English subs and more are coming out all the time. The Russian flicks are really great, what they lack in special effects and hollywood glitz is more than made up for with gritty realism, and they are chock full of period vehicles, weapons, and equipment, both Soviet and German, as well as Lend Lease British and American stuff. These are not the kind of thing you will find at your local Blockbuster though, but there is some great stuff out there for those that are interested in something different than the usual hollywood offerings.

Panzer_M · Post by **Panzer_M** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:25 pm

At the Gates, was crap

a Holly-hype of Stalingrad and the book War of the Rats.

Stalingrad(1993) and Stalingrad: Dogs, do you want to live forever(1958)

are better motion pictures of the conflict.

Col.Pickle · Post by **Col.Pickle** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:53 am

Panzer_M wrote:At the Gates, was crap

a Holly-hype of Stalingrad and the book War of the Rats.

Gasp!

I haven't heard of those other movies. Maybe I'll check em out.

Post by **aferguson** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:06 pm

Stalingrad is pretty good....i didn't think the acting/dialogue was very good but that may be because i saw a dubbed version. Some good action scenes....i didn't think it was horrific enough though.

ostketten: which of the Russian movies would you recommend the most? I'd prefer one with english subtitles.

ostketten · Post by **ostketten** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 6:56 am

ostketten: which of the Russian movies would you recommend the most? I'd prefer one with english subtitles.

Hmmm...well, there are so many...but a couple of my favorites that come to mind are "On The Nameless Height" a story of a Soviet female sniper, "Kursanty" (Cadets) a story about Soviet officer cadets at the Saratov Artillery Academy who will be sent to the front, and almost certain death upon graduation, "Zvezda" (The Star) a story about a Red Army scout/recon squad operating behind German lines, very good action scenes and equipment, this one was originally without English subs, but I believe it can be found with subtitles now if you look hard enough, "Come and See", not one of my all time favorites but many people like the brutal scenes, like many Elem Klimov films, it has a somewhat bizzare, surreal quality to it. "Our Own", a story about Soviet partisans in Byelorussia or Ukraine in WWII, sort of a mixture of drama and combat, but a good flick in any case. "Voyna" (Literally "War") this is not WWII, it's based loosely on the Chechnya conflict, but is a great action flick nevertheless, and is subtitled. Last but not least I would recommend a film that is not Russian (actually it's Finnish), but is based on the Russo-Finnish "winter war" of 1939-40, "Talvisota" (Winter War), this flick probably has some of the best combat scenes of anything I've ever seen, and it has English subtitles as well, originally released on VHS tape, it was a rather poor transfer in terms of video quality, but I understand it is now available digitally re-mastered on DVD. One thing I want to caution people about Russian cinema, in many ways it can be crude by western standards, but if you overlook the technical flaws and consider the context of the historical time and settings, I think many people will enjoy it

Post by **aferguson** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:55 am

i was able to watch Talvisota on Youtube last night. Aside from the subtitles which didn't make a lot of sense, it was nicely done. Good combat scenes, realistically done (as far as i can tell, having never been in combat). I liked the Polikarpovs and Tupolevs too.

ostketten · Post by **ostketten** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:28 am

aferguson wrote:i was able to watch Talvisota on Youtube last night. Aside from the subtitles which didn't make a lot of sense, it was nicely done. Good combat scenes, realistically done (as far as i can tell, having never been in combat). I liked the Polikarpovs and Tupolevs too.

Just picked up the legit studio authorized DVD release of Talvisota from an ebay seller, and I must say the transfer was done quite well, a bit grainy perhaps but not bad at all. I once owned the VHS version of this movie and the video quality was quite poor to say the least, so it was really nice to get a good transfer on DVD. This is why I always encourage people to get the legitimate releases of these foreign war movies, they cost more but the video quality on the bootleg disks almost always suffers due to the compression that has to be used to cram 6 or 7 Gigabytes of video stream onto a DVD-R that has a maximum burned capacity of about 4.5 gigs.

Panzer_M · Post by **Panzer_M** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:14 pm

yea one of my favorite DVDs, I love the part when the finns try to capture the Russian tank, find US Spam and call it buffalo meat.

but overall a great great film.

ostketten · Post by **ostketten** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 2:30 pm

Panzer_M wrote:yea one of my favorite DVDs, I love the part when the finns try to capture the Russian tank, find US Spam and call it buffalo meat.

but overall a great great film.

I assume you must be referring to the Tali-Ihantala flick...?? The winter war (Talvisota) took place 1939-40 and lend lease wasn't even a gleam in Stalin's eye at the time, so I doubt the Russians had any spam on board their tanks...?? I dunno, I just watched my new Talvisota DVD from beginning to end and I don't recall seeing any spam, but I have a copy of Tali-Ihantala on the way from an ebay seller in Finland, so I'll keep an eye out for the canned wonder..

Panzer_M · Post by **Panzer_M** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 2:59 pm

yea it's a bit in Tal'44 when they go to an abondoned russian tank, the Finns are looking around inside the tank and find US tinned meat.