I finally picked up a Brit Firefly after being out of the scene for a couple months. The markings appear to be the British 10th armoured division with a smaller unit marking as the number. Anyone have any idea what unit this is? I found that the 10th Armoured Div was in Egypt in 1944 and disbanded. Any other info? Thanks.
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Firefly markings ( ? )
I don't have a clue "krieglok" ....... I'm curious myself. 
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The tank in question is from the 8th Armoured Brigade A Squadron 4th Troop The regiment is I believe the 4th/7th Royal Dragoon Guards (a little fuzzy on that). The 8th was a part of XXX Corps.
The 8th Armoured Brigade was a Second World War British Army brigade, formed as part of the 10th Armoured Division.
The 8th was deployed to North Africa where it took part in the Battle of El Alamein and the reulting pursuit of the retreating Axis armies. It was removed from the 10th Armoured, and acted as an independant Armoured Brigade. It fought alongside the 7th Armoured Division and the 2nd New Zealand Division.
Following the Capitulation of the Axis forces in North Africa, the regiment was transferred to Britain where it was slated to take part in the Allied invasion of Europe. Elements of the Brigade were equipped with Duplex-Drive models of the Sherman tank.
On D-Day, 6th June 1944, the brigade landed on Gold Beach near Arromanches and le Hamel, providing support for the 50th (Northumbrian) Division. The Brigade served with the 49th West Riding Division, fighting with distinction in the battles around Rauray in late June.
The brigade served under XXX Corps for the remainder of the war in europe, taking part as a part of the 'Garden' element in Operation Market Garden. It later also took part in the Rhine Crossings in March 1945, supporting the 43rd (Wessex) Infantry Division.
After the reformation of the Territorial Army in 1947 it joined the 49th Armoured Division as 8 (Yorkshire) Armoured Brigade. The Brigade left the 49th Division in 1956, and later disbanded. - Wikipedia
The 8th Armoured Brigade was a Second World War British Army brigade, formed as part of the 10th Armoured Division.
The 8th was deployed to North Africa where it took part in the Battle of El Alamein and the reulting pursuit of the retreating Axis armies. It was removed from the 10th Armoured, and acted as an independant Armoured Brigade. It fought alongside the 7th Armoured Division and the 2nd New Zealand Division.
Following the Capitulation of the Axis forces in North Africa, the regiment was transferred to Britain where it was slated to take part in the Allied invasion of Europe. Elements of the Brigade were equipped with Duplex-Drive models of the Sherman tank.
On D-Day, 6th June 1944, the brigade landed on Gold Beach near Arromanches and le Hamel, providing support for the 50th (Northumbrian) Division. The Brigade served with the 49th West Riding Division, fighting with distinction in the battles around Rauray in late June.
The brigade served under XXX Corps for the remainder of the war in europe, taking part as a part of the 'Garden' element in Operation Market Garden. It later also took part in the Rhine Crossings in March 1945, supporting the 43rd (Wessex) Infantry Division.
After the reformation of the Territorial Army in 1947 it joined the 49th Armoured Division as 8 (Yorkshire) Armoured Brigade. The Brigade left the 49th Division in 1956, and later disbanded. - Wikipedia
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A nice model, but... I am not sure if the version of the tank is proper. The model is the Sherman Mk Ic (M4 with 17 pdr gun) but this tank should be probably the "export" Mk Vc (M4A4 with 17pdr gun) which looked different: the hull was distinctly longer, the distances between bogies were longer, the upper plate behind the turret was different. Most Fireflies were Shermans Mk Vc. Please correct me when I am wrong...
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Re: Firefly markings ( ? )
"This is all very interesting" ,.. and Thank You "Wieslaw" for the info on this tank too.
"I did not know this about the Firefly".
- All I knew , was that the British just improved the main-gun ,ie.. 17 - pounder = 76mm. , equivalent.
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"I did not know this about the Firefly".
- All I knew , was that the British just improved the main-gun ,ie.. 17 - pounder = 76mm. , equivalent. Mitch v MG
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Yes, the 21st model is slightly off. The hull is not correct in type and this shows up as the turret sitting too far back. I am not up to speed on the many Sherman variants with their different hull angles and hatch placements, but it is obvious ithe hull is off just a bit. It isnt a bad representaion as many of the details such as the plated over hull machine gun and other small details are present. It is akin to the over length hull on their Panzer IVs. It only slightly detracts but the overall representation is good.
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Grockwood, of course, you are right, there were the Mk Ic (M4) Fireflies and Hybrid Mk Ic (composite-hull)*, too. On the other hand, all M4 Fireflies I saw on the photos had the one-piece medium or late differential and final drive housing. But the majority of Fireflies was the Mk Vc (M4A4) version and they all had the early three-part "nose", just like the 21CT model. I can't be sure, but I suppose it is the similar case as the FoV "British M4A3 Sherman" in Italy - there were no British M4A3s! It should be the Mk III (M4A2).
We, the Poles, who used mostly the Mk III and Mk V (but the non-export M4A1(76)W, too...), need the proper Sherman models
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*They served as the only Fireflies in the Polish 2nd Armoured Brigade/Division in Italy and as the supplementary tanks in the Polish 1st Armoured Division in France/Belgium/Holland/Germany, where the main Firefly variant was the Mk Vc.
We, the Poles, who used mostly the Mk III and Mk V (but the non-export M4A1(76)W, too...), need the proper Sherman models
Sorry, 21 Century Toys and Forces of Valor. Generally I like your products very much!
Wieslaw
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*They served as the only Fireflies in the Polish 2nd Armoured Brigade/Division in Italy and as the supplementary tanks in the Polish 1st Armoured Division in France/Belgium/Holland/Germany, where the main Firefly variant was the Mk Vc.
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