What's next from BBI?

RAD 2112 · Post by **RAD 2112** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 1:06 pm

Since we haven't heard much from 21st Century, what do you think BBI will have to offer in 1/32 scale this year?

MG-42 · Post by **MG-42** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 1:16 pm

* Your guess is as good as mine. I don't expect anything as far as any new offerings from them IMHO.

....... God only knows ! ... "Just wait & see" ... "wait & see".

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Mitch v MG

dragon53 · Post by **dragon53** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 3:41 pm

The 1/32 F-104 is still in limbo.

I was hoping for a 1/32 TBF Avenger since the Dauntless and Wildcat were apparently successful, but I assume the bad economy has put BBI into a holding pattern.

Since 21st Century seems near death, maybe BBI can fill the void with new 1/32 planes.

RAD 2112 · Post by **RAD 2112** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 4:21 pm

Since BBI is making a lot of Naval aircraft... here's hoping for an 1/32 F6F Hellcat.

dragon53 · Post by **dragon53** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 4:44 pm

RAD 2112:

A few months ago one of the dealers mistakenly announced that BBI was releasing a 1/32 Vraciu Hellcat---but it was just a mistake by a sales rep who sent out the wrong info. Since BBI already has the 1/18 Hellcats still available, I think the chances for a 1/32 Avenger or Helldiver would be better...but I'm always wrong about this speculation.

ketelone · Post by **ketelone** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 4:48 pm

From my personal experience, the F4 and the Dauntless were easy to acquire. Not so much for the Wildcat.

Rowsdower · Post by **Rowsdower** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 8:10 pm

I am really happy with my Wildcat and Dauntless. I would like to see a Hellcat but who knows. Hopefully BBI will step up to the plate and fill the void left by 21st.

Dauntless · Post by **Dauntless** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 8:17 pm

I would be happy with a Hellcat or an Avenger, or for that matter a Helldiver.

None of these has been covered so far.

At least some repaints of the Dauntless, Wildcat and Phantom.

Rowsdower · Post by **Rowsdower** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 9:29 pm

Dauntless wrote:I would be happy with a Hellcat or an Avenger, or for that matter a Helldiver.

None of these has been covered so far.

At least some repaints of the Dauntless, Wildcat and Phantom.

A colorful pre-war paint scheme for either the Wildcat or Dauntless would be sweet.

ketelone · Post by **ketelone** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 9:35 pm

The prewar paint schemes on the Dauntless are very cool. Someone already makes one. It costs over a $100. But it looks great and it's die cast.

ketelone · Post by **ketelone** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 10:01 pm

BBI could also do the British version of the Wildcat, I just picked up the Revell models of the Wildcat and the Brit version.

Dauntless · Post by **Dauntless** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 10:41 pm

Yeah the die-cast Hobby Master is pretty cool. Little rich for me.

Wouldn't mind an A-24 Banshee. The US. Army's version of the SBD.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Douglas_A-24_USAF.jpg

If anything I would like a Midway version, or even a more colorful early Coral Sea version with red white striped tail rudder and red dotted star.

Hopefully we'll get the 1943 Navy version we've seen pics of even.

Maybe an Atlantic version of the Wildcat in the Block Island colors of grey like the 21st Avenger, or as you say a British Martlet.

Rowsdower · Post by **Rowsdower** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 12:21 pm

Yes the Hobby Master offering is very nice but also too rich for my poor wallet.

A later Wildcat FM-2 would be awesome, but that would involve changes to the mold.
http://www.cavanaughflightmuseum.com/Ai ... Page1.html

nooker21 · Post by **nooker21** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 1:22 pm

Just put out some midway or coral sea repaints for both the wildcat and dauntless and i'll buy them super fast...

dragon53 · Post by **dragon53** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 3:14 pm

Here is BBI's repaint of the Dauntless---which hasn't been released.

Rowsdower · Post by **Rowsdower** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:42 pm

dragon53 wrote:Here is BBI's repaint of the Dauntless---which hasn't been released.

Nice. For some reason I've always been a sucker for that red bordered 1943 US insignia and any plane wearing it.

Dauntless · Post by **Dauntless** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 11:16 pm

That red outline is cool! Kind of an oddity.

My understanding is they took the red dot and red and white stripes off (or painted over them rather) of US Navy Planes by 1942 so as to not have any confusion with the red meatball of the Imperial Navy.

It's kind of confusing that they put a red outline in 1943, then removed it.
Don't quite know the specifics of this story.

The USAAF brought the red and white tail striping back on some of it's aircraft late in the war though.
The P-51D "Miss Bonnie" is an example of that.

RAD 2112 · Post by **RAD 2112** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:56 am

Rowsdower wrote:Nice. For some reason I've always been a sucker for that red bordered 1943 US insignia and any plane wearing it.

I like the 1/48 White 17 Hellcat for that reason.

Here's an interesting link, but it doesn't give a reason as to why they changed the red border...

U.S. Naval Aircraft Markings

Rowsdower · Post by **Rowsdower** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:16 pm

They removed the "meatball" from the center because they wanted to prevent trigger happy US and allied AA gunners and other pilots from mistaking it for the Japanese rising sun. From what I've read they wanted red white and blue back in the insignia so the red outline were added but shortly thereafter removed in '44 leaving just the familiar blue outline to again avoid mistaken identity. After the war in '47 when the USAF was created the red finally returned as the stripe in the center of the blue outline. Now today we get the "low visibility" grey scale star and bars which sucks imo. I really can't see where having the colored insignia would be such a problem in todays combat situations.

The 1:48 Aleutian Tigers P-40 also sports the red outlined insignia and has always been one of my favorite P-40 schemes.

Dauntless · Post by **Dauntless** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:54 pm

Yeah, I love that scheme all the way around on the P-40.
That and the silver Tony are the only 21st 1:48's I bought.

I was hoping 21st would get to the P-40E model in 1:32 before they went kaput, along with the Hellcat.

I can't remember seeing the yellow bordered star in the PTO very much. Trying to remember if at all?
Mostly in Operation Torch in the ETO. Lots of P-40's, P-38's and tanks and such.

blurx7 · Post by **blurx7** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:57 pm

Somebody please make a 1/32 P-38. The world screams for a 1/32 prebuilt P-38.... wait... maybe that's just me screaming.... but still.....

Rowsdower · Post by **Rowsdower** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:57 pm

blurx7 wrote:Somebody please make a 1/32 P-38. The world screams for a 1/32 prebuilt P-38.... wait... maybe that's just me screaming.... but still.....

Nah, I will scream a bit too.

Dauntless · Post by **Dauntless** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 8:19 am

I scream you scream we all scream for a P-38!

RAD 2112 · Post by **RAD 2112** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:40 am

"The skies are alive with the sound of Lightnings...."

blurx7 · Post by **blurx7** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 7:49 pm

All right... here is what I want you to do... I want you to go to your window and I want you to open your window and stick your head out and start yelling... "I'm mad as h*ll and I'm not gonna take it anymore! I want a 1/32 scale P-38 and I want it NOW!!!"

OK... who here is old enough to remember this reference?

Small Scale Military Headquarters

What's next from BBI?

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