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No8 Models - Any demand for modern day jet ordinance/weapons

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 1:20 am
by Jay
Hey fellas.
Just putting some feelers out there. How many guys would be interested in some missiles and bombs for the modern 1/18th range. I have no clue as to how they are attached on the models so will need some dimensions regarding attachment points.
Also, whats weapons would you guys want? Could do a sprue with x amount of missiles and x amount of bombs?

Re: No8 Models - Any demand for modern day jet ordinance/wea

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 5:24 am
by Birddog
I think this would be awesome. May also need the proper racks made for some of the ordinance to mount accurately.

Air-to-ground ordinance would be good.

AGM-65 Mavericks and GBUs off the top of my mind.

Re: No8 Models - Any demand for modern day jet ordinance/wea

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:00 am
by rschaap
I would go for any ordinance that is not currently available for the F-14, F-18 or F-16 including the ordinance racks.

Re: No8 Models - Any demand for modern day jet ordinance/wea

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:27 am
by A-10LOADER
Any MK-82 500lb. series bombs, GBU-12's and JDAMS would be nice.


Steve

Re: No8 Models - Any demand for modern day jet ordinance/wea

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:26 pm
by wolf8564
I have a collection of Ordanace sacled to 1/18(unlike the F-16sMissle and Bombs)
GBU10,GBU-12, Cbu 87 ,ALQ-131ECM Jammer, gbu 32 Jdam, Sidwinders , Amraam, Harms, Maverickand GBU-54 Laser JDAM. If you want I can send you pics and info. do you have your masters yet?

Re: No8 Models - Any demand for modern day jet ordinance/wea

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:36 am
by rudedog
any of the above would be good also pizzaguy all ready has molds made for the gbu holders. he did for me for the black knights gbu holders . he probley would cast and sell more if any one is looking for them

Re: No8 Models - Any demand for modern day jet ordinance/wea

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:03 am
by A-10LOADER
Let's see some pics RUDEDOG .....


Steve

Re: No8 Models - Any demand for modern day jet ordinance/wea

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:02 pm
by rudedog
roger that i have the set ups at home they are not painted yet they were made from the b/k factory holder look the same only stronger.

Re: No8 Models - Any demand for modern day jet ordinance/wea

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 7:10 pm
by Jay
wolf8564 wrote:I have a collection of Ordanace sacled to 1/18(unlike the F-16sMissle and Bombs)
GBU10,GBU-12, Cbu 87 ,ALQ-131ECM Jammer, gbu 32 Jdam, Sidwinders , Amraam, Harms, Maverickand GBU-54 Laser JDAM. If you want I can send you pics and info. do you have your masters yet?
Wolf, that would be great. I'll PM you my email. I haven't gathered any information at all. A fellow board member just mentioned that there might be a need for these things for you modern guys.

Re: No8 Models - Any demand for modern day jet ordinance/wea

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:43 am
by rschaap
I'm hoping this works out. I would love to load up my modern day jet with different ordinance sets. Here are some examples of different weapon loadouts.

http://www.anft.net/f-14/f14-detail-weapons.htm

http://www.navy.mil/navydata/aircraft/fa18/fa18ord.html

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/inde ... ial/page-2

http://www.warbird-photos.com/gpxd/view ... p?p=204349

Re: No8 Models - Any demand for modern day jet ordinance/wea

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:07 pm
by wolf8564
i ALSO FOUND A PLACE THAT HAS SOME THAT WERE FOR A BIGGER SCALEbUT ACCORDING TO THERE MEASURMENTS THEY COULD BE USED. YOU WOULD NEED TO HAVE THE MEASUREMENTS OF THE BOMBS WOULD bE AND SEE HOW CLOSE THEY COME TO 1/18 SCALE. i HAVE NEVER SEEN THESE IN PERSON SO BE CAREFUL WHEN BUYING!

http://www.darehobby.com/accessories/ar ... smartbombs

Re: No8 Models - Any demand for modern day jet ordinance/wea

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:02 pm
by Berkut
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But, they should make some more jets first than 3 modern US jets in 1:18 :/

Re: No8 Models - Any demand for modern day jet ordinance/wea

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:07 am
by granch
Wolf8564, the weapons sold at darehobby.com seem to be more 1/10 when I compare the size of Sidewinder missiles, about 10", mine (on the BBI Hornet) are about 6".

I'm still looking for a pair of 1:18 Hellfire with the launching rails as on the BBI Apache (would be for a Kiowa custom).

Re: No8 Models - Any demand for modern day jet ordinance/wea

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:54 am
by The_Helicopter_Pilot
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Re: No8 Models - Any demand for modern day jet ordinance/wea

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:00 am
by wolf8564
yea thats trueI just knowthat there are a couple of thiere small bombs would probably work for a 1/18 scale 2000 pounder

Re: No8 Models - Any demand for modern day jet ordinance/wea

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:37 pm
by Jnewboy
I would like some WWII German Rockets and Air to Air missles

Re: No8 Models - Any demand for modern day jet ordinance/wea

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:04 am
by rschaap
:hornet: I NEED ORDINANCE..............

Re: No8 Models - Any demand for modern day jet ordinance/wea

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 5:20 pm
by Jay
Thanks Wolf for sending the drawings.
Hey, so guys. One important question, how are these various weapons attached to the existing jets?
I have the Bbi Pavehawk, and the external tanks are attached with two round pins (one larger in diameter than the other) with a "wall" bridging the pins.
Is this the same connection as the Bbi jets?
What about the Tomcat?

Re: No8 Models - Any demand for modern day jet ordinance/wea

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:14 pm
by A-10LOADER
I attach all my ordnance with small brass wire, works well for 1/48th scale. I plan on doing the same thing with my 1/18th Tomcats. I will just use a little heavier gauge wire for the larger scale.
I start the process by drilling holes , in the weapons, where the attachment points are found. Again, reference material is key for this part. I drill the weapons prior to painting. The wires make good hand - holds while painting the weapons.
Once drilled, I insert a length of wire into the holes on the weapon. With the weapons having all their pins installed, I can now finish the painting, decalling and, weathering of the weapons.
Now, comes the time to attach the weapons to the bomb racks, pylons, etc. I hold the weapon in place and note where the wires contact the rack, pylon, etc. Then, I drill the 1st mounting hole. Placing the corresponding wire of the weapon into the 1st mounting hole. I then "pivot" the weapon slightly so as to scratch the paint and mark the second hole and then drill the 2nd hole.
Alignment of these holes is critical. If they are not spaced properly, the wires mounted in the weapon will not fit into both holes. Also, if they are not aligned with the centerline of the weapon, it will hang improperly on the model. It takes some practice and a little "eyeballing" to get the alignments to work.
With the holes drilled, I place a small drop of super glue on the ends of the mounting wires and slip the weapon into place. It is actually the wires that hold the weapon. The super glue only adds stability to the fit.
This allows you to change the weapons loadout from time to time and gives the aircraft a "new" look. Hope this helps, I am not at this stage in my build or I would have included pics to go with this article.


Steve

Re: No8 Models - Any demand for modern day jet ordinance/wea

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 5:31 pm
by normandy
Jnewboy wrote:I would like some WWII German Rockets and Air to Air missles
Me too, I know you said modern but..... an X 4 Ruhrstahl would be cool.

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Re: No8 Models - Any demand for modern day jet ordinance/wea

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:29 am
by rschaap
I would like to see something like this for my weapons loadout. Hopefully it will happen

http://hsfeatures.com/features04/images ... PDS_11.jpg

http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/G ... rab/07.jpg

Re: No8 Models - Any demand for modern day jet ordinance/wea

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:46 am
by A-10LOADER
Agreed, however I do not have a F-18 so, I do not know what the pylons look like. As for the F-16, I have one of them (8FW, Wolfpack version) and the TER's are not engineered very well. They would need some serious rework to look good IMO. Those of you who have one know what I am talking about. They have large "sockets" on them which is where the bombs fit into. At this scale, 1/18th, it just dosen't look good.
That's another project for another day. I have to finish my Tomcats first. Would love to see all the different weapons someday though.


Steve

Re: No8 Models - Any demand for modern day jet ordinance/wea

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:12 pm
by wolf8564
You can see what the pylons look like at my photobucket site.
http://s1295.photobucket.com/user/RBrax ... t=3&page=1

Re: No8 Models - Any demand for modern day jet ordinance/wea

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:51 pm
by A-10LOADER
Wolf8564,

Did you scratchbuild all those different munitions ?? They all look really good. You've done quite a bit of extra detailing / scratchbuilding to that F-16 as well, well done. I would like to have some of that stuff for my F-16.


Steve

Re: No8 Models - Any demand for modern day jet ordinance/wea

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:00 am
by Jay
Ok, so i've found some weapon sets I can scale off. Without going into single specific ordinances at this stage, what do you guys what to see most of (to start off).

U.S. Bombs & Tow Target System.
U.S. Guided Bombs & Rocket Launchers.
U.S. Missiles & Gun Pods.
U.S. Air to Air Missiles & Target Pods.