1/18th P-47D Questions.

MightyMustang · Post by **MightyMustang** » Wed May 25, 2005 8:05 pm

Hey guys I have a question for those who bought the 1/18th Thunderbolts. I ordered "Snortin Bull" today and I just want to get your guys opinions on the quality of these BIG Thunderbolts. Whats the features they have and so fourth? Was it worth ordering one? I just ordered one to add to my 1/18th collection and I went with "Snortin Bull" because I love the paint scheme.

Any and all opinions welcome!

DocTodd · Post by **DocTodd** » Wed May 25, 2005 8:42 pm

They are fairly nice planes. The P-47 is a big heavy plane and I think it is a must have for a 1:18 scale plane.. It has several moving surfaces and looks good. I like the Snortin Bull also. I'm hoping they will do a "Tar Heel Hal".
Todd

tmanthegreat · Post by **tmanthegreat** » Wed May 25, 2005 8:47 pm

I have the "Blond Angel" P-47D Razorback, and it has pretty much the same features, though there are some differences between that version and the Bubbletop version that you have purchased. I'll compensate for those differences and bring in what I have heard from others who got the bubbletop versions, as well as what I observed after seeing a packaged one at a small retailer's store.

The 1:18 P-47s all have the usual 21c aircraft features. The flaps, elevators, and rudder are the movable control surfaces. The plane comes with the rocket tubes and wing-mounted bombs & racks, as well as the drop tank. The tank is the wrong version for the bubbletop P-47 (it is the same one that came with the Razorback), and should be the flattened type. The panel detailing on the outside is well done, but there is not much weathering. There is also a second row of cylinders in the engine, which is a nice feature

The landing gear are shortened (as opposed to being hydraulically extended as seen on the actual plane) so that they can retract inside the aircraft. The tail gear (at least on the Razorback) clicks into place so that it can support the weight of the plane and may be a bit tough to retract.

The cockpit and canopy on both the 21c P-47s are oversized and a little toyish (this is the only real downside to what is otherwise a great release.) The canopy on the BT version should slide open, but I don't know how stiff or loose it actually is. The instruments are not painted on either. There is a small gap between the instrument panel and the dash and no gunsight.

There were some QC issues concerning botched paint-jobs and broken parts with the first two Bubbletop P-47s (Eagleston & Eileen) but those have been corected with Snortin Bull, I believe. You may also want to look out for broken wing guns, though those were more of a problem with Wal Mart planes than at small retailers. It is rather heavy and should be hung securely.

As with all 21c aircraft, the P-47 is truly an excellent release, though there are some points that were left to be desired. Its no BBI P-51 or 21c ME-109G & Spitfire, but I think you'll still be pleased

MightyMustang · Post by **MightyMustang** » Thu May 26, 2005 4:49 am

Thanks tman and DocTodd for the info its very much appreciated. Of all the P-47 releases I had to go with "Snortin Bull" due to the fact that the paint scheme is pretty damn cool and like DocTodd said I hope 21st eventually comes out with "Tar Heel Hal" as well. But to you tman thanks for ALL the info so I know what to expect. It looks as though I'll have to do some touching up on it here and there. Such as weathering, painting the dials on the instrument panels ect but thats no big deal because I do it all the time on my big and small fighters when they need it. Now I just hope nothing is broken or the paint scheme isnt messed up when I get it. I've heard those problems but the gal at Bad Cat said she would make sure nothing was wrong with it when they shipped it. For too long I passed up on the Big P-47 because I never really considered it a favorite of mine until recently. I watched a show about the P-47 the other day on the History Channel and saw and found out that the P-51 Mustang was not the ONLY fighter in the ETO that defeated the Luftwaffa. In fact according to the History Channel show the 47 was the one that set the path for the Mustang to follow, one vet said "The 47 broke the back of the Luftwaffe and the Mustang finished the job". It was well known that the P-47 could take a terrible beating where as the Mustang could not and it saved many pilots lives.

That all being said I'm glad to have ordered a P-47 because 1-its a great collection peice for a great fighter plane and 2-its a great peice to honor the men who flew it combat.

Rogue · Post by **Rogue** » Thu May 26, 2005 5:43 am

I have the Razorback, but i'm waiting on a "Gabby" Bubbletop for my next 47.

A great Ace, and a really nice man.

MightyMustang · Post by **MightyMustang** » Thu May 26, 2005 6:15 am

Now a Gabby P-47 would be cool but whats the odds we will ever see one?

Post by **aferguson** » Thu May 26, 2005 6:43 am

probably excellent..

Rogue · Post by **Rogue** » Thu May 26, 2005 5:12 pm

aferguson wrote:probably excellent..

Yep, Historically Significant, and Visually Attractive.

Win-Win

nomo4me · Post by **nomo4me** » Thu May 26, 2005 10:42 pm

If I could get a snortin' bull at wm I probably would do so. We have both the other BBT's here and I'm unimpressed with them.

If they bring out a Gabby camo repaint though, nuttin' will keep me from reaching for the card.

Nomo

Quixote511 · Post by **Quixote511** » Fri May 27, 2005 9:47 am

The wife and I, ok more me, have planned to name our second son after Gabby. A hero fitghter pilot who was of Polish heritage, has me all over it. I would certainly have to buy two Gabby's.
Aaron

pokeyjtc · Post by **pokeyjtc** » Fri May 27, 2005 3:47 pm

The P-47 is probably my favorite WW2 era fighter, so I am glad that 21C has done both the bubbletop and razorback. I would also like to see a Tarheel Hal repaint but 21c would have to add the dorsal fin extension to the P-47 bubbletop to be accurate. The current 21c bubbletop does not have this extension that was added to the later D model bubbletops. I think that this might rule out us seeing a Tarheel Hal repaint. The good news is that Gabby's plane didn't have the fin extension so it would just be a simple repaint. I may do my own custom of Gabbys plane since my Big Ass Bird conversion came out pretty well and was actually pretty easy to do. Here's a thumbnail pic to show the Tarheel Hal and some other P-47s with and without the fin extension.
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MightyMustang · Post by **MightyMustang** » Fri May 27, 2005 8:22 pm

I have to say that I'm really looking forward to "Snortin Bull", my very first 21st P-47 Bubble Top purchase. I've read alot of good and bad things about 21st's P-47s mainly the paint jobs on some of the bubble top versions but I think I'll get lucky with "Snortin Bull". The Bad Cat rep said he looked it over before it was sent out and nothing was broken that he could see and the paint job had no imperfections. This will be my only P-47 purchase because next up with be the Spitfire ( DW K) and the two BBI Mustang re-paints, plus I'm going to by "Putt Putt Maru" the P-38 as a gift for my dad for his b-day. Nothing against 21st's other Thunderbolts but I have limited space so one of each will do, besides the Mustangs thats is where I can never get enough of those. BUT a freind of mine really likes my P-51D "Killer" so I MIGHT sell it when my other two Mustangs arrive. Dont know about that yet.

kevrut · Post by **kevrut** » Fri May 27, 2005 8:38 pm

http://www.web-birds.com/9th/404/404th. ... ck it out.

Website · Post by **Teamski** » Sat May 28, 2005 12:36 am

kevrut wrote:http://www.web-birds.com/9th/404/404th. ... ck it out.

Unfortnuately, that is a photo of Snortin' Bull 3rd. I have another picture of SB (albeit B/W) in the profile album. Check it out!

Thanks for the reference, though

-Ski

donnieboy · Post by **donnieboy** » Sat May 28, 2005 6:08 pm

Mighty Mustang:
IMHO the 21C P-47D Razorback versions are better than the bubbletop versions because the fit and finish of the Razorbacks are superior and because they have a radio mast. The bubbletop versions
have gaps between the top and bottom halves of the wings and lack a radio mast. They also have a large groove behind the canopy. Not Groovy! That said, they are still nice pieces and I recommend them as well as the bubbletops. Now where's that %$#@*&^ Avenger!

Post by **p51** » Sat May 28, 2005 8:30 pm

MightyMustang · Post by **MightyMustang** » Sat May 28, 2005 8:32 pm

Thanks for the info donnieboy but I can live with those and correct the gap problems. I'm used to fixing small problems on the big scale planes.

MightyMustang · Post by **MightyMustang** » Sun May 29, 2005 2:30 pm

Damn p51 thats an awsome shot of Eaglestons P-47. Makes me all that much more excited to get "Snortin Bull"!!!!

Post by **aferguson** » Sun May 29, 2005 5:02 pm

man am i getting bored of this thread..lol..

Sorry. Carry on..

OnWu · Post by **OnWu** » Sun May 29, 2005 5:19 pm

I'm with Ferguson

and I'm not sorry. (begins to hurl)

Post by **p51** » Mon May 30, 2005 12:24 pm

You guys don't have to view/post in it then.

Post by **aferguson** » Mon May 30, 2005 6:10 pm

MightyMustang · Post by **MightyMustang** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 2:32 pm

Just got my P-47 yesturday and some of you were very right. First its BIG and heavy! I think overall 21st did a very good job paint scheme wise with "Snortin Bull". No problems there. The only thing I dont like is the cockpit and the gaps on the wings and so fourth. But those things I can live with because I'll try and fill the gaps and re-do the cockpit plus whether it a little (exhaust stains ect).

But otherwise its a big and beautiful Thunderbolt which I'm FINALLY happy to own.

Two thumbs up for 21st on this one!!

digger · Post by **digger** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 2:36 pm

I've seen comments about the cockpit on the BTs - what's the deal with them? All 3 have the same issue? Thanks!

MightyMustang · Post by **MightyMustang** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 3:00 pm

Hey digger. I dont know about the others because this is the only 47 I have but the cockpit is not very well done. In fact it looks like they did a hurry up job on it if you ask me. Theres a big gap in front of the instrument panel which I dont believe was on the real thing. Some of the dials and throttles are poorly painted ect. Liek I said it looks like a hurry up job. But I'll take the time and fix them up because "Snortin Bull" is too big and impressive (at least to me) to let these things go.

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