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Need some help with info on these strange WWII customs

Post by Jnewboy » Sun Aug 11, 2013 2:22 pm

I posted this in the reference forum and got nothing back so I will post it here, maybe someone here can help.

In the last week I have found not one but many things I have NEVER seen or heard of.

Below is a series of pics, some of models and one of a real picture. I would love to hear from any of you that have knowledge about any of them...

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Su122 on a Mark III??? Any info??


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38t chassi with L/70 gun ??? info???

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88mm on T-34/76 ??? info??? (Had to make that my new logo) :wink:

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38t chassi with massive mortar?? info???

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Ostwind on a MKIII?? info???

Any info on these would be of great help :D

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Re: Need some help with info on these strange WWII customs

Post by Epap » Sun Aug 11, 2013 3:30 pm

Regarding the first picture, the Soviets captured hundreds of German Pz.III tanks---especially at Stalingrad----and converted many of them into self-propelled canons, mainly of the 76mm variety. This one looks to be sporting a larger gun---possibly a 100-122 mm canon---but, otherwise, is probably one of these conversions. As for the T-34s with the 88mm guns, I assume that these were last minute German improvisations, maybe at Berlin in 1945. I'm not certain whether the pictures showing canons mounted on what seem to be Czech tank chassis depict real AFVs.

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Re: Need some help with info on these strange WWII customs

Post by Jnewboy » Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:29 pm

Epap wrote:Regarding the first picture, the Soviets captured hundreds of German Pz.III tanks---especially at Stalingrad----and converted many of them into self-propelled canons, mainly of the 76mm variety. This one looks to be sporting a larger gun---possibly a 100-122 mm canon---but, otherwise, is probably one of these conversions. As for the T-34s with the 88mm guns, I assume that these were last minute German improvisations, maybe at Berlin in 1945. I'm not certain whether the pictures showing canons mounted on what seem to be Czech tank chassis depict real AFVs.
I have read that it is a fake, to bad, would have made a cool model.

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Re: Need some help with info on these strange WWII customs

Post by PanzerArm » Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:53 pm

That t-34 with 88 is a photoshop job. I can't remember exactly where, but I recall one of the other WWII armor related forums I frequent debunked that after someone posted a pic.

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Post by PanzerArm » Wed Aug 14, 2013 1:14 pm

Here is one of the source images for the fake pic:

henk.fox3000.com/t34/t34-88/2/02.jpg

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Re: Need some help with info on these strange WWII customs

Post by normandy » Thu Aug 15, 2013 8:01 pm

This ones cool...
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Post by normandy » Thu Aug 15, 2013 8:03 pm

Here's one...

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Post by flyboy_fx » Thu Aug 15, 2013 8:06 pm

PanzerArm wrote:Here is one of the source images for the fake pic:

henk.fox3000.com/t34/t34-88/2/02.jpg

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Re: Need some help with info on these strange WWII customs

Post by PanzerArm » Thu Aug 15, 2013 8:53 pm

normandy wrote:This ones cool...
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I believe that is a wood burning device of some sort. I can't recall precisely what it's purpose was, but I think it was a means of propulsion.

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Re: Need some help with info on these strange WWII customs

Post by [CAT]CplSlade » Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:10 pm

That was my thought. They converted quite a few vehicles to burning wood and other fuels as petrol supplies ran low.

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Re: Need some help with info on these strange WWII customs

Post by tmanthegreat » Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:45 pm

I thought at first glance some German soldiers had simply grafted some sort of a homemade beer brewery onto the back of their hanomag :lol:
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Re: Need some help with info on these strange WWII customs

Post by Jnewboy » Fri Aug 23, 2013 9:47 am

tmanthegreat wrote:I thought at first glance some German soldiers had simply grafted some sort of a homemade beer brewery onto the back of their hanomag :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol:

SdKfz 251/23 Moble Brewery

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