Whittman Tiger

MG-42 · Post by **MG-42** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 4:06 am

A KingTiger is already in the works as we speak. Release should be by next year,...early as Spring. Another "wait and see" on the actual release date. "As for it having a Porsche turret",....I would'nt count on it. If it did,...it would be an instant classic. These KT's fitted with Porsche turrets were "shot-traps" anyway. That's why so little of these were produced,..only 50,..and replaced by the new and popular Henschel turret which was an overall improvement.

steelbonnet · Post by **steelbonnet** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 4:27 am

Ahhhh didn`t know a King Tiger was in the works

Great news

As for the turrets,yep knew that though the Porche one still as you said is an Instant Hit,must be due to the limited number done.

Ja
Steel Bonnet

flpickupman · Post by **flpickupman** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 5:19 am

Ask and ye shall receive.

Problemchild has overcome the lack of Zimmerit with a very expedient solution. Scroll down to the bottom of the thread.

viewtopic.php?t=3712&highlight=sturm+tiger

steelbonnet · Post by **steelbonnet** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 6:22 am

Ohhh Bloody hell i forgot about this one

Yea there you have it

Thank`s mate

Maybe P51 may want to make a sticky of that post for the zimmerit How TO

ja
Steel Bonnet

flpickupman · Post by **flpickupman** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 6:41 am

That or if we can get him to slide it over to the Customs thread in the Reference Room. That would work too.

MG-42 · Post by **MG-42** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 6:54 am

Getting back on top. ........Wittmans last Tiger,..007 ,..in which he lost his life,..with entire crew,..Autumn 1944.

steelbonnet · Post by **steelbonnet** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 6:56 am

Sorry MG

Yep 007 was the one he commandeered & alas lost his life in.
Also still the BIG Argument on WHO got the kill shot too isn`t there.

Ja
Steel Bonnet

MG-42 · Post by **MG-42** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 7:17 am

Yeah,...his tank was hit several times at once,...with many Shermans in the area.

steelbonnet · Post by **steelbonnet** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 7:45 am

& Don`t forget the RAF claiming the kill too apparently. or was that just assumed in the beginning of his death?

Ja
Steel Bonnet

MG-42 · Post by **MG-42** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 7:51 am

Assumed,...by Hawker-Typhoons,....but actually,..by Sherman "Fireflys". Wittman was only 30-years old when he lost his life. His crew were alot younger.

luftpanzer · Post by **luftpanzer** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 8:18 am

It would be nice if some one could post a detail account of his last fight and death. And any witnes accounts.

flpickupman · Post by **flpickupman** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 8:35 am

This is from the previously posted website Panzerace.net. It details his last engagement, and discusses the units that claim to have destroyed Wittmann's Tiger.

http://www.panzerace.net/english/pz_bio_05.asp?page=3

steelbonnet · Post by **steelbonnet** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 8:47 am

To think what COULD have happened IF Wittmann had taken up Panzer Training instructer instead of front line fighting.
Could have found a few more Wittmann types later in the war,though NOT like the Heer,Waffen SS & Luftwaffa didn`t have there own Tank Aces anyway.

You think they had him pegged as a King Tiger commander for when they were going to come out?

Ja
Steel Bonnet

flpickupman · Post by **flpickupman** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 8:53 am

Actually, it would have been interesting to see Wittmann in a Jagdtiger based on his Stug experience. He could have reached a long way with that 128mm.

luftpanzer · Post by **luftpanzer** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 9:08 am

Just think if he had survived the war. He would be an honared guest at may reenactments and Dragon Con.

theToyFederation · Post by **theToyFederation** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:16 am

Otto Carius is still around and had more kills than Wittmann, but I don't see him at many cons.

nfafan · Post by **nfafan** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 9:42 pm

and ran the "Tiger Apothecary" no less! He didn't care for the JagdTiger he got stuck with towards the end of the war; too problematic and cumbersome.

Post by **aferguson** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 9:47 am

i find it interesting the mystique surrounding Whittmann. There were tank aces with more kills (eg Otto Carius, as mentioned by ToyFed) and his politcial views were less than appealing (he was an ardent nazi supporter) but all that seems to be 'forgotten' in the lore of his wartime stories. I guess a lot of it has to do with the way he died, fighting the classically romantic 'hopeless battle against overwhelming odds'.

Also interesting how the dispute over 'who got him' parallels the dispute over who got the Red Baron....everybody wants credit for bagging the enemy's superstar.

I doubt the russians romanticized him so. If they'd caught him they probably would have thrown him in prison for 10+ years for 'sabotaging the russian war industry'...many very high scoring german fighter aces had similar sentences hanging over their heads had they been captured by the soviets.

There is no guarantee Whittmann would have been a good instructor. A lot of what he did may have been instinct and 'feel' and even dumb luck. All hard to teach. Plus, he just may have been a lousy instructor. Alot of 'aces' or superstars are..they can't communicate well and are impatient with those of 'lesser ability'.

Still, this Whittman tiger will probably be a must have, even if it's just because there will finally be a tiger with a decent three color paint job (the old 3 color tiger looks like a five year old painted it with a 10 cent paint brush).

Small Scale Military Headquarters

Whittman Tiger

A KingTiger Too !

Zimmerit

Wittmans Last Tiger !

Wittmans last Tiger !

Wittmans Last Tiger !

Last Battle

Otto went on to become a pharmacist