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Post by **aferguson** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 11:36 am

either that or they should give us each 5 dollars.

Threetoughtrucks · Post by **Threetoughtrucks** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:47 am

BCA will start to ship the Atlantic version on 10/27.

ALSO, the pilot tube and screw caps are included........

TTT

Sabrefan · Post by **Sabrefan** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:29 am

THat is cool that the pitot tube will come installed in the new Avengers, and the screw covers are a big plus.

rmoore456 · Post by **rmoore456** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:58 pm

aferguson wrote:either that or they should give us each 5 dollars.

The heck with $5, I want the screw covers!!!!!!!

Ray

hworth18 · Post by **hworth18** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:08 pm

rmoore456 wrote:
aferguson wrote:either that or they should give us each 5 dollars.
The heck with $5, I want the screw covers!!!!!!!

Ray

Agreed... 21st should send them out to everyone that wants/needs them at NO CHARGE..

kimtheredxd · Post by **kimtheredxd** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:13 pm

I would pay a small fee as in shipping cost for them myself. Just dont go e-bay on us and charge a silly price on shipping 21st

Wings_&_Armor · Post by **Wings_&_Armor** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 3:01 pm

In case you missed it, the 21st web site just announced that the Avenger is now out in stores!! Boy, I'm sure glad I know now.

BTW, I wonder why the pics are only of the left side

Website · Post by **Teamski** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:09 pm

AAARRGGHHH!!!!!! I just got notification the Badcat sent me an Atlantic Avenger. I had 2 on preorder that I cancelled. Obviously, they missed one! Great. Now I have to go through the whole mess of returning the damn thing.....

-Ski

hworth18 · Post by **hworth18** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:25 pm

Teamski wrote:AAARRGGHHH!!!!!! I just got notification the Badcat sent me an Atlantic Avenger. I had 2 on preorder that I cancelled. Obviously, they missed one! Great. Now I have to go through the whole mess of returning the damn thing.....

-Ski

Keep the Badcat one and return the Walmart Avenger, atleast you'll get one that's been fixed..

grunt1 · Post by **grunt1** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:39 pm

grunt1 wrote:From the Bad Cat site:

"According to our 21st representative, these latest Avengers will come with screw caps, installed pitot tubes, and have changes to the fuselage tooling helping to improve historical accuracy. "

Wonder if they can ship us some improved "historical accuracy".. ?

Sabrefan · Post by **Sabrefan** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:03 pm

Yea, I'll take a little historical accuracy myself.

Website · Post by **Teamski** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:56 am

hworth18 wrote:
Teamski wrote:AAARRGGHHH!!!!!! I just got notification the Badcat sent me an Atlantic Avenger. I had 2 on preorder that I cancelled. Obviously, they missed one! Great. Now I have to go through the whole mess of returning the damn thing.....

-Ski
Keep the Badcat one and return the Walmart Avenger, atleast you'll get one that's been fixed..

I don't think WM accepts returns without a reciept. I got these things months ago.....

-Ski

flpickupman · Post by **flpickupman** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:26 am

Ebay it as "New and Improved."

Razor17019 · Post by **Razor17019** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:56 am

Teamski wrote:
hworth18 wrote: Keep the Badcat one and return the Walmart Avenger, atleast you'll get one that's been fixed..
I don't think WM accepts returns without a reciept. I got these things months ago.....

-Ski

Walmart will take back product without a receipt and give you store credit.

Folkwulfe · Post by **Folkwulfe** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:47 am

This may have been addressed before...so forgive the repeat. I contacted 21C through their email customer service. I asked if the screw caps would be available to those of us who bought their Avengers through WM and they were missing. The reply I got was...send them you name and address and they will send them when (if?) 21C has them available. I refuse to believe that I'm the ONLY person who has inquired about the caps. Maybe the more requests they receive, the more prompt and vigilent they will be about getting them to those of us who support 21C. Can't hurt...it only costs an email!

digger · Post by **digger** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:54 am

How are they going to know who is entitled to screw caps? After all, very few people still have a receipt or even the box I assume..is it just the honor system? If so I could see them popping up on ebay very shortly as many people don't know about this site or Area 21 (see $1 VN figures promptly sold on ebay for $5).
That is why money back is laughable - how many people would sign up for $5? I'm sure quite a few. Besides, 9 out of 10 of us knew darn well the state of the bird when we bought it. Not saying screw caps wouldn't be nice, but let's not pretend we were had...
As some people said with the Hellcat missing details - maybe we should just be glad we got it after all that time....

flayrah · Post by **flayrah** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:56 am

Teamski wrote:AAARRGGHHH!!!!!! I just got notification the Badcat sent me an Atlantic Avenger. I had 2 on preorder that I cancelled. Obviously, they missed one!

-Ski

I received the same message, and immediately contacted them asking to confirm that I had one on order and it was not cancelled (as I wanted). Two days later and I haven't received a reply, so if one shows on my doorstep I guess it's going back.

Folkwulfe · Post by **Folkwulfe** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:09 am

Guys...GUYS...settle down! I for one am glad I finally got an Avenger after some three years of anticipation. Sure, there were some missing details and maybe a QC problem. Sure 21C may have made a mistake sending ALL the initial orders to WM. Sure WM made some "funny" decissions about where to send them. Just makes me more glad I got one when I did. I see post continually from others on this board who haven't SEEN one yet. How about the poor guys overseas who don't have WM's in their countries? Personally, I knew what it was and the shortcomings before I plopped my bucks on the counter....and I'm not regreting the purchase one bit. BadCat is sending a second my way as we speak. If it's greatly improved...the WM version is going into the "Mod Shop"...if not, I've got four guys chomping at the bit to buy it from me....no big deal and I'm out nothing. Not to say that I'd like to see some improvements all around...from details to QC to distribution and availability!! Of coarse I would! But I'm an aviation buff from a long way back....and I gotta tell you, I'm not disappointed in the Avenger....I see possibilities! How about a Fire Bomber version? Yeah, I can cut this, paint that, modify the cowl here, the canopy there...VIOLA! At least I have a place to start. Can you imagine scratch building one of these "turkeys"?

Razor17019 · Post by **Razor17019** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:14 am

Folkwulfe wrote:This may have been addressed before...so forgive the repeat. I contacted 21C through their email customer service. I asked if the screw caps would be available to those of us who bought their Avengers through WM and they were missing. The reply I got was...send them you name and address and they will send them when (if?) 21C has them available. I refuse to believe that I'm the ONLY person who has inquired about the caps. Maybe the more requests they receive, the more prompt and vigilent they will be about getting them to those of us who support 21C. Can't hurt...it only costs an email!

My email back from 21st C was:
If the screw caps become available for your model, we'll be glad to send
them. We'll keep you email in case they do.

Not to reassuring that they will have extras to send out...

kimtheredxd · Post by **kimtheredxd** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:25 am

As to the post above about proof of purchase.Who would want some plastic plugs if they DONT have a avenger? Would not be much use if you dont have one.

MK · Post by MK » Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:40 am

kimtheredxd wrote:As to the post above about proof of purchase.Who would want some plastic plugs if they DONT have a avenger? Would not be much use if you dont have one.

I can scalp them on eBay!

MUUWAHAHA!

I also emailed customer service very politely to see what their response would be. I sure hope we can get them sent to us, but will understand otherwise. Mostly everyone was aware the screw holes would be an issue aside from the folks who don't come here or were one of the first few who bought one.

MK

MK · Post by MK » Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:49 am

Well, I got a fast response back to my email. Here is what they said to me:

"If you email us your name and address, we'll send them if the become
available for your model."

Doesn't sound like a promise but at least my name will be on the list. I encourage all to email them requesting the same. Be sure to sprinkle some sugar in your email to help sweeten the deal.

Post by **aferguson** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 9:48 am

i was joking about giving us each $5 dollars. I'll write jokes in italics from now on so they're more obvioius.

I could see them either requesting you send in the upc code from the box, or just go by the honour system. Maybe send a maximum of 1 or 2 sets of screw caps per address. 21c could include a slip of paper with the caps saying they are expressly NOT FOR RESALE.

It would really bug me if dirt bags started scalping the things on ebay, i think i would have to go after them.

tmanthegreat · Post by **tmanthegreat** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 11:08 am

I like how the photos in the new Avenger press-release on the Area21 site do not show the side with the missing screw covers, though one can see they are missing under the wing

Website · Post by **Teamski** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:27 pm

flayrah wrote:
Teamski wrote:AAARRGGHHH!!!!!! I just got notification the Badcat sent me an Atlantic Avenger. I had 2 on preorder that I cancelled. Obviously, they missed one!

-Ski
I received the same message, and immediately contacted them asking to confirm that I had one on order and it was not cancelled (as I wanted). Two days later and I haven't received a reply, so if one shows on my doorstep I guess it's going back.

I just got off the phone with BCA. The guy there shows my order cancelled. Supposedly they saw my previous post and cancelled the shipment and credited me before I called!!! WOW! Now that is action. Thanks BCA for following up! I am waiting on those 262s, by the way, hehehe....

-Ski

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