1/16

MG40K · Post by **MG40K** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:11 pm

I was looking at some 1/16 scale accessories for a WWII diorama.

Is 1/16 all that off from 1/18?

Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

VMF115 · Post by **VMF115** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:24 pm

Yes it is,,, you can tell.

GooglyDoogly · Post by **GooglyDoogly** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:37 pm

Which accessories are you talking about? If it's Build-a-Rama stuff, then yes, they're 1/18th.

But companies are now making more and more accessories in 1/16th scale.

hotrodrock · Post by **hotrodrock** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:50 pm

I have several of the 1/16 Heng Long Tigers and as far as 1/18 figures go, they work very well with the 1/16. Some of our members have shown photos of their work on 1/18 vehicles where they used parts off of the 1/16 vehicles and I don't think they look out of place at all.

MG40K · Post by **MG40K** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 5:04 pm

There verlinden, they look like pretty nice accessories.
Thanks for the help

scbvideoboy · Post by **scbvideoboy** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 5:11 pm

I asked this question before and was shown pictures of a 1/16 walker bulldog next to the 21st 1/18 walker tank... and the difference is huge.

Somewhere near 11-12%

With all those cheap 1/16 rc knockoffs there are more and more accessories available.

DH

MG40K · Post by **MG40K** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:48 pm

Any one have any comparison pics?

Threetoughtrucks · Post by **Threetoughtrucks** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:04 pm

The key is to use a 1/16 vehicle in a group of 1/18 vehicles that are not made in 1/16.

Like a 1/16 M-26 - who's to notice the difference and it's not made in 1/18. We all know it's bigger than a Sherman... sooooo.

A second example is a Highway 61 Firetruck. They make a WW2 RAF engine that looks great with no work to it and with a few 1/18 figs it looks good next to your planes.

Just don't gp overboard.... I tried to use a 1/6 Kettengrad pulling a 1/18 Me-262 but it just doesn't work..

TTT

Yoxford · Post by **Yoxford** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 5:59 am

MG40K, here is a comparison between 1/18 and 1/16

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/4017 ... 016iu8.jpg

Post by **aferguson** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 6:59 am

ah yes the father and son Tiger tanks photo..

Many of the weapons made by 21c are 1/16 scale, or very close. Most people would probably not notice the differece. Other small accessories you can get away with too. But unless you're very forgiving, tanks, large artillery pieces etc are going to be quite noticably too big.

You may be able to get away with it if, like TTT says, you don't mix in the same subject in two different scales. For example a 1/16 Pershing or T-34 with your xd stuff. But if you have some knowledge on the subject it will be pretty obvious that they are too big compared to the other tanks. Whether that bothers you or not is up to you. Sometimes it might, sometimes it might not. I have a 1/16 T-34 and while it's big i can live with it. I got a 1/16 Leopard 2a5 and it dwarfed my Abrams, so i had to get rid of it.

MG40K · Post by **MG40K** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 2:03 pm

Tanks Yoxford for the pic, and everyone else for the advice.

I wasn't planning on getting any 1/16 tanks, just some stowage, like crates and ammo boxes, etc. Again, Thank you!!

Jesse James · Post by **Jesse James** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 11:54 pm

Never saw a comparison of the two and it's pretty substantial. Far more than I'm willing to fudge... Guess I'll just stick with 1:18, however I may get a 1:16 for fun because man they look like a blast to run around the yard with... The detail's outstanding and far superior to XD I'm afraid. That's disappointing considering the price difference isn't THAT much.

EDIT:

Here's an odd question... If any of you can help, I appreciate it.

Anyone with Henlong tanks, I'm curious... How wide are the tracks on:
-M41
-M26
-Tiger-I
-Panzer-III

I'm curious for a couple reasons how wide the tracks are on those items, and particularly which is widest.

zonetoys · Post by **zonetoys** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:39 am

Jesse James wrote:Never saw a comparison of the two and it's pretty substantial. Far more than I'm willing to fudge... Guess I'll just stick with 1:18, however I may get a 1:16 for fun because man they look like a blast to run around the yard with... The detail's outstanding and far superior to XD I'm afraid. That's disappointing considering the price difference isn't THAT much.

EDIT:

Here's an odd question... If any of you can help, I appreciate it.

Anyone with Henlong tanks, I'm curious... How wide are the tracks on:
-M41
-M26
-Tiger-I
-Panzer-III

I'm curious for a couple reasons how wide the tracks are on those items, and particularly which is widest.

They are fun, especially for chasing the cat around the house! Sound and smoke are nice additions especially the starting engine and shut down! Cannon recoil w/sound and machine gun w/sound and light too!

Track size - I have both the Tiger I and the M41A3 and the tracks on both measure 1.75" in total width

Jesse James · Post by **Jesse James** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:30 am

They're the same width?

Thanks for that info... The Tiger I was mostly interested in, so that helps a lot.

Gunner · Post by **Gunner** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:31 pm

For what it's worth, I have used 120mm Verlinden (VLS) accessories with many of my 1/18 vehicles.

For example, I have VLS C-rations on the back of a Gate 1/18 jeep and they look great.

I've used VLS MRE's in dioramas with my 21C Humvees, 21C Bradleys and BBI LAVs without any problems at all.

I used a VLS ACAV kit on a 21C M113 and it looks pretty darn good (IMHO). If you hold a picture of an actual ACAV up next to it, you notice the shields are a little big, but even having seen pictures (and seen a real ACAV in person), the 120mm set doesn't look THAT MUCH oversized (again, my opinion, and your mileage may vary)...

Basically, I agree with the previous poster who said that you should only use 1/16 / 120mm stuff that someone doesn't do in 1/18.

I have a model kit of a Trumpeter 1/16 modern Chinese tank that I keep telling myself that I'm either going to start or, or sell... I just hope someone doesn't do one in 1/18 first...

MG40K · Post by **MG40K** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:37 pm

Thanks for the info, thats really all I planned on using.

tankduel · Post by **tankduel** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:07 pm

Gunner wrote: I have a model kit of a Trumpeter 1/16 modern Chinese

It's 1/20 scale I believe.

I'm the other way round, I'm a 1/16th collector and I fill in my collection with 1/18 stuff I can't get in 1/16.
Nev

zhukov · Post by **zhukov** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:33 pm

as for the 1/20 trumpeter tank, its great for customising, and an easy build. someone posted comparison pics of one next to a 1/18 m1 a while ago...if you cant find it, ill post those pics as i saved them at the time (but they arent my pics). if you intend to use the type 98 as a 1/18, you can make it a t -72 derivative. the type 98 has the chassis of the t-72 but lengthened by a meter and has a set of roadwheels added. all that is really necessary for it to work as 1/18 is for turret customisation. the t 72 is significantly smaller and lighter than its wetern counterparts in reality, so it isnt a big issue.

the scale difference of 1/18 and 1/16 is less of an issue with different vehicles obviously than two of the same in different scales, and visually it makes a big difference in the latter case, whereas i dont think it is too bad in the former situation. hope it helps..

ostketten · Post by **ostketten** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:59 pm

the t 72 is significantly smaller and lighter than its wetern counterparts in reality

41 tons more or less... about two-thirds what an Abrams weighs.

The Iraqi T-72's in the first gulf war (Desert Storm) were given the rather unpleasant sobriquet "jack-in-the-box" by some coalition troops due to the tendency of the turrets to blow off when hit. The T-72 autoloader cassette on the floor of the vehicle had a nasty habit of cooking off all the stored ammo when hit by the DU long rod penetrators from the Abrams and other coalition tanks, and this often resulted in catastrophic internal explosions which would pop the turret right off, this is one reason you see many pics from the gulf war of T-72's with their turrets lying askew on top of, or next to the burned out hulks.

darkwing · Post by **darkwing** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:10 am

For those interested in 'upgrading' their 1/18 tanks, there is compatibility between the 1/18 Panzer IVs sprocket and the Heng Long PzIII and PzIV tracks (both plastic and metal).

It's a fine upgrade also for the 1/18 Rc Panzer IV.

The other tracks (e.g. the Tiger) are not compatible.

forcerecon85 · Post by **forcerecon85** » Thu May 08, 2008 10:47 pm

Has anyone tried 1:16 weapons with a 1:18 figure? Is it really noticeable? I wouldn't mind the 120mm US Inf vietnam gear to mix up with my 21c 1:18 Nam guys.