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1/18 BF109G6/14 tall tail custom
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:42 am
by flyboy_fx
Re: 1/18 BF109G6/14 tall tail custom
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:29 am
by plasticboy
Wow......... Impressive! I guess you have lot of 109 for custom, remember you did few.
Re: 1/18 BF109G6/14 tall tail custom
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:35 pm
by pickelhaube
This looks pretty good but you missed something.
The 109 has the lavender type second color camo. Kind of like 21st's Fw-190.
It looks like you could have used a little more cream color in your spots.
I am not trying to come down on you just minor color differences.

Re: 1/18 BF109G6/14 tall tail custom
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:28 pm
by flyboy_fx
Hi ph,
The color on the fw190 is rlm 02. I chose rlm 84 (greenblue) for my spots. I liked the way it looked. Rlm 84v2 is what they painted on the fw190`s sides. It's the off blue color... well, green blue. lol

Either wouls work... heck, even rlm 76 blotches would.
Also, my rlm 81/82 iswhat vallejo recomends. On my me 262 trainer i mixed some redbrown into my rlm 82, this one i did not. It's just vallejo olive drab (rlm82 they recommend).
Re: 1/18 BF109G6/14 tall tail custom
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:28 pm
by flyboy_fx
Hi ph,
The color on the fw190 is rlm 02. I chose rlm 84 (greenblue) for my spots. I liked the way it looked. Rlm 84v2 is what they painted on the fw190`s sides. It's the off blue color... well, green blue. lol

Either wouls work... heck, even rlm 76 blotches would.
Also, my rlm 81/82 iswhat vallejo recomends. On my me 262 trainer i mixed some redbrown into my rlm 82, this one i did not. It's just vallejo olive drab (rlm82 they recommend).
Re: 1/18 BF109G6/14 tall tail custom
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:25 pm
by AJWW2
Dude that's great. Your paint jobs are awesome!
Re: 1/18 BF109G6/14 tall tail custom
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:13 pm
by B17Fortress
Great work once again flyboy!
I love the head stand the plane is sporting in two of those photos!
Re: 1/18 BF109G6/14 tall tail custom
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:24 pm
by smittyrob64
Looks great.
This looks pretty good but you missed something.
The 109 has the lavender type second color camo. Kind of like 21st's Fw-190.
I think what pickelhaube is referring to is the second base color camouflage as seen on the side profile pic you showed, which appears to be RLM 75 Grauviolet, also seen on 21st's FW-190.
Re: 1/18 BF109G6/14 tall tail custom
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:45 pm
by flyboy_fx
Gotcha...
Well, I was going after the RLM 81/82 that BF109 later versions where painted in. I don't thing any G-6s where painted in that.
Like this. I did not mix in as much red to the redbrown RLM 82 though.
Also note the RLM 84 under-surface color. I chose that for my blotches.

Re: 1/18 BF109G6/14 tall tail custom
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:02 pm
by flyboy_fx
smittyrob64 wrote:Looks great.
This looks pretty good but you missed something.
The 109 has the lavender type second color camo. Kind of like 21st's Fw-190.
I think what pickelhaube is referring to is the second base color camouflage as seen on the side profile pic you showed, which appears to be RLM 75 Grauviolet, also seen on 21st's FW-190.
OH I GOTCHA! I see, the reference has the RLM 75. I chose to do 81/82 because I found proof of that on similar schemes and I liked it better.
Re: 1/18 BF109G6/14 tall tail custom
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:47 pm
by Jnewboy
It looks good flyboy! nice job on the tail!!
Re: 1/18 BF109G6/14 tall tail custom
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 5:24 am
by aferguson
for some reason i just saw this.
to my understanding this could be a G14, not a G6 being converted. While the G14 was meant to standardize the chaotic series of changes that had been designed into the G series, it didn't and there were just as many variations in the G14 series as there were in the G6. Most G14's had the galland hood though, whereas this one has the earlier style canopy. But lots of G14's had the cowl bumps, short tailwheel of the G6 series.
It's hard to believe there were any G6's still around to be converted in May of 45. They hadn't been produced in well over a year and with service attrition i would doubt there were any left by this point in the war. In fact, i doubt there were any left at the time of Bodenplatte on Jan 1 '45.
So this may simply be a G14, in one of its many forms.
I like the tall tail custom job. Something i'd like to try myself as well as the erla hood
Re: 1/18 BF109G6/14 tall tail custom
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:47 am
by flyboy_fx
Yea, I see what you mean. I thought the same, but any info I could find on this plane states it's converted.
I feel like I want to repaint this one. I used what Vallejo recommended for RLM80/81, not my mixture, like the one I used on my 262 trainer.
Re: 1/18 BF109G6/14 tall tail custom
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:20 am
by aferguson
the cover of Squadron Signal's Messerschmitt Bf 109 in Action Part 2, shows a pair of 109's in flight together, with the caption being late December '44.
One is a K-4, but the other is a G6, so maybe there were still G6's around at that time, and later that could have, at some point, undergone conversion to later standards with the tall tail, lengthened tailwheel, erla hood etc.
It's just surprising that a model that came out in early '43 would still be around so much later, when the pace of fighter development on both sides was so brisk.
Re: 1/18 BF109G6/14 tall tail custom
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:50 am
by aferguson
ok, i did some digging and the G-6 did indeed remain in frontline service until the end of the war and was used during Bodenplatte along with various other G and K variants.
They were being updated to G14 standards throughout the later part of the war, so what you researched is probably correct. This was a G6 being updated to G14 standards. Which means prior to that it was still a good ole regular G6 like the ones that had been around for 2 years.