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Post by Jericoeagle1 » Wed Feb 25, 2009 6:31 pm

Hey TKO you were closer then anyone to 21st, what was the last you heard on their status?
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Post by tkjaer21 » Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:23 am

Update: I got the post from the YoJoe forums.

From Toy Soldiers of San Diego's website's coming attractions section:

"21st Century has advised us that they will be releasing new products this spring. We do not know as yet what these might be, other than the WWII U.S. artillerymen sets that we have pictured here. As soon as we know more we will post it here."

http://www.sdsoldiers.com/coming_attractions.htm

That doesn't sound like they're going out of business to me. TSSD's site is all about 1/32nd scaled items, so there probably won't be any news on new 1/18th scale stuff there. It any case, I hope they'll release something like a Maus tank. I'd like one of those with rolling tracks in 1/32nd scale.

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Post by jlspec » Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:41 am

Those look like the same sets release at Target under the Four Star Military brand

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Post by pickelhaube » Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:36 pm

tkjaer21 wrote:Update: I got the post from the YoJoe forums.

From Toy Soldiers of San Diego's website's coming attractions section:

"21st Century has advised us that they will be releasing new products this spring. We do not know as yet what these might be, other than the WWII U.S. artillerymen sets that we have pictured here. As soon as we know more we will post it here."

http://www.sdsoldiers.com/coming_attractions.htm

That doesn't sound like they're going out of business to me. TSSD's site is all about 1/32nd scaled items, so there probably won't be any news on new 1/18th scale stuff there. It any case, I hope they'll release something like a Maus tank. I'd like one of those with rolling tracks in 1/32nd scale.
I guess this section should be totaly deleated.

I guess as long as it is here there is always hope.

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Post by flayrah » Thu May 14, 2009 1:45 pm

Someone living in the area should drive over to 21st HQ and see what's happening. Maybe disguise yourself as a bottled water delivery....or someone from the bank coming to foreclose.

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Post by VMF115 » Thu May 14, 2009 2:09 pm

Will some one tell Zach that he needs to turn off the lights, and lock the door.
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Post by Cabe » Thu May 14, 2009 10:41 pm

I heard that BBI purchased a good lot of 21st C's molds. What they are going to do with them..who knows
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Post by flayrah » Fri May 15, 2009 1:16 am

Cabe wrote:I heard that BBI purchased a good lot of 21st C's molds. What they are going to do with them..who knows
Where did you hear this - a reputable source? The only reason I would think bbi would want those is to prevent another company from using them.

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Post by Cabe » Fri May 15, 2009 10:07 pm

well, not too sound cryptic but I don't feel comepletely comfortable revealing the person because I don't know if they would want me too and I am not completely sure they were not just repeating a rumor. The person does work in the industry and is reputable, but it was a casual conversation were I don't think they would want to be named as a reference on the subject.

I know how this forum can get but,

The conversation went something like this

me: "its a shame with 21st C closing down, they had just started cranking out some interesting stuff like the open top afv's and the hetzer, not to mention their older tanks like the brummbar and panzer IV chassis. I sure hope someone buys those molds and either improves on or at least keeps the lineup alive."

Mr. X "Well I understand that BBI bought up a bunch of them."

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Now "I understand" could mean hearsay or fact
and "A Bunch" could mean 5 to howmanyever molds or an actual "bunch"

So I don't feel comfortable pointing questions toward this person if they are just talking casually with me. If I talk to them and they say they don't give a flip or its common knowledge then I will . But honestly, either they did or they didn't.

I would ask BBI
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Post by JohnLumley » Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:52 pm

www.21stcenturytoys.com/

Website does not load anymore. Anyone else notice this?

Looks like the site may have been decommissioned.

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Post by Ta-152 » Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:40 am

There was thread about the shutdown and links to an archived version of the site.
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Post by KAMIKAZE » Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:55 am

Echo.........echo..................echo................. :lol:
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Post by Jay » Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:16 pm

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Post by tko211 » Thu Sep 24, 2009 3:32 pm

Jay wrote:Ha ha...."TK421.....why aren't you at your post......TK421....do you copy?"
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Post by normandy » Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:12 pm

TKO, I know I've been kicking this thing around for a year or two maybe three....... Do you have any Intel on the 21st King Tiger?
Was it ever in production? or "On the Water" about to hit U.S. shores? or did berney madeoff take off with all the funds for this project? :P
From the pics I'd seen this would have been a great looking piece.

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Post by tko211 » Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:52 am

normandy wrote:TKO, I know I've been kicking this thing around for a year or two maybe three....... Do you have any Intel on the 21st King Tiger?
Was it ever in production? or "On the Water" about to hit U.S. shores? or did berney madeoff take off with all the funds for this project? :P
From the pics I'd seen this would have been a great looking piece.
It was about a month before Roy left that I last heard about the King Tiger. From what I remembered the KT was pretty much done and ready for full production. I believe that the tooling was made for it and I think that a production sample was made from it? Not 100% certain on that.

I do know that I personally held in my hand a nearly finished prototype while standing in Roy's office one afternoon on a business trip.

I believe the plan was to release the KT right after the 88. It was about that time that funding pretty much ran out and I think that was the death blow to the KT. It was very far along! I think there is a good chance we will still see the molds used and produced by someone else.

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Post by Baker707 » Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:47 am

Thanks for clearing things a bit :P
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Post by immeww2 » Sat Sep 26, 2009 9:32 am

That is some promising news about the KT. It would be a shame to go so far along in the process and not see the product finalized.

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Post by Stug45 » Sat Sep 26, 2009 9:36 am

TKO do you know who has the King Tiger prototype???
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Post by tko211 » Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:37 pm

These days, I have no idea who has it. It's sucks too because we were soooo close to getting that KT.

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Post by Black_Dragon_One » Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:42 am

tko211 wrote:These days, I have no idea who has it. It's sucks too because we were soooo close to getting that KT.
ditto on that... that would made my wii collection bumer
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Post by digger » Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:32 am

Let's change this title...may be the only one of these to keep around. :P

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Post by luftpanzer » Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:58 pm

I think All Go Toys has the King Tiger Mold. I was just on thieir web site and the pic they have of the King Tiger looks just like the the on 21st had on their web site 8)
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Post by tko211 » Tue Apr 20, 2010 12:01 am

Yeah, that post was old... shortly after that post I discovered that All-Go retained the KT mold.

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Post by luftpanzer » Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:49 am

Dose All Go retain some of the same employees?
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