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21st Century & Motorworks - the differences?

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 10:44 pm
by bird
Being from downunder we don't see alot of these products except for on the net. On eBay I have seen Motorworks vehicles listed as 21c XD.
How is that so?
Are they the same company?

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 5:09 am
by flpickupman
There were some XD aircraft and vehicles that were sold under the Walmart exclusive Motorworks brand name. There is the diecast hull Tiger I, an Fw-190, a Stuka, the Checkertail P-47 and RAF P-40 to name a few. The items themselves are marked with 21st's logo and copyright.

The Motorworks boxed items generally have less accessories or detail. The Motorworks P-47, for instance, lacks the nose art the 21st boxed variant possesses. Consequently they're considered a step down from the 21st boxed toys. One exception is the Tiger I. The Motorworks boxed variant has a diecast upper hull, while the 21st boxed Tigers are all plastic. That's a step down in my opinion.

Hope this helped.

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:41 am
by bird
cheers

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:35 am
by ParatrooperCarbine
I agree mostly but I have (or had) MW P-47s with the nose art. And the MW Sherman was pretty sharp, as was the Bradley.

I believe the WM distribution corresponded with a temporary quality dip, but that dip carried over into non-MW items also. This is mainly reflected in paint quality and the crispness of the edges and lines on small parts such as sidearms.

To see the difference, compare the 2005 XD carded figures to the series 1 figures and the paras. Or compare the 1:6 Axis III sets to the Axis I set, Modern Foreign Weapons, etc.

Happily, this trend has been reversed. The latest XD carded figures are awesome, down to almost every detail. Same can be said of the latest 1:6 weapon sets. Mostly.

BRAVO!

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 3:08 pm
by blurx7
Motorworks also had some of the early Forces of Valor 1/32 scale stuff in the Action series grade. A Sherman, a Halftrack and a Sturmgeschutz III, as I recall. Also some diecast planes and helicopters in various scales, though I don't know the manufacturer of those.

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:52 pm
by ostketten
The Motorworks boxed items generally have less accessories or detail. The Motorworks P-47, for instance
I can't say about the MW P-47 because I never owned one, but the MW Cobra snake copter is identical in detail and accessories to the 21C version as far as I can tell, and the same goes for the MW 32X Mobelwagen and Flakpanzer IV, no difference there that I can tell from the recent 21C releases, aside from the new paintschemes.

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:11 pm
by STUKA
Yeah the only difference I saw was the packaging well and paint schemes

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 7:50 pm
by tmanthegreat
The first "Checkertail" P-47s that did not have the nose art were the very first run of that sculpt and had a few bugs that were worked out in subsequent releases. I think this was the breakdown of the 21c products offered in the Motorworks line:

1:18 Aircraft:
F-4U Corsair "Korean" (limited edition)
AH-1W Supercobra
P-47D "Razorback"
Bf-109E "Winter"
Spitfire
P-40
FW-190D
UH-1 Huey
JU-87 Stuka

1:18 Armor:
M4 Sherman "winter"
Tiger I "winter"
M2 Bradley "desert"
M113 APC "desert" & "vietnam"
(all vehicles were diecast)

1:32 Armor (Cold Steel) :
Panzer III E
Panther G
Sherman
M-24 Chaffee
Panzer IVH
Flakpanzer Mobelwagen
Flakpanzer Wirblewind

1:32 Armor Kits:
Panzer III E
Sherman
M-24
Panther
M3 Halftrack
SDK 7 Halftrack

Please let me know if there's anything I'm missing. The motorworks stuff seemed to have much more spotty distribution than XD stuff has today, so I might have missed something...

BTW, the 1:32 FOV Motorworks tanks also included the Matilda MkII :wink:

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:12 pm
by FieroDude
The winter and green-splinter camo Stukas were also offered under the Motorworks name.

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:23 pm
by tmanthegreat
Forgot about those - as usual, they never showed in my area! Have been added to my list in the above post :wink: