new C-27J Spartans go to "Boneyard"
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:44 am
"Pork barrel" politics at work.
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new C-27J Spartans go to "Boneyard"
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Re: new C-27J Spartans go to "Boneyard"
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:30 pm
That is pretty ridiculous.
"Pork barrel" politics at work.
"Pork barrel" politics at work.
Re: new C-27J Spartans go to "Boneyard"
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:18 pm
Looks like a very capable aircraft.
The Forest Service might be getting them?
http://wildfiretoday.com/2012/07/26/sen ... t-to-usfs/
The Forest Service might be getting them?
http://wildfiretoday.com/2012/07/26/sen ... t-to-usfs/
Re: new C-27J Spartans go to "Boneyard"
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 7:26 pm
It's pork. Really no different than the ongoing manufacture of tanks (Abrams) even when the generals have indicated we don't need any more.
Re: new C-27J Spartans go to "Boneyard"
Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:21 am
I saw the Spartan in Afghanistan last year. The Army pushed the program. Kind of a FOB Hopper to go places where the C-130 wouldn't fit. USAF would like to get out of the Tactical mission, and the Army can't afford to take over the program.
I don't think it's as much pork as it is a matter of contract. We have been pushing for "Firm Fixed Price" contracts the last few years. Big contractors expect to get paid. If we terminate the program, the contractor usually litigates for termination fees. Sometimes these are as much if not more than the cost to complete the contract. Maybe sending them to the bone yard was actually cheaper.
Remember the failed A-12 program. 20 years of litigation and $10 billion dollars in claims. Even the Supreme Court couldn't unravel the mess.
I don't think it's as much pork as it is a matter of contract. We have been pushing for "Firm Fixed Price" contracts the last few years. Big contractors expect to get paid. If we terminate the program, the contractor usually litigates for termination fees. Sometimes these are as much if not more than the cost to complete the contract. Maybe sending them to the bone yard was actually cheaper.
Remember the failed A-12 program. 20 years of litigation and $10 billion dollars in claims. Even the Supreme Court couldn't unravel the mess.