a mistake between 2 Sdkfz 251/7 from dragon armor ?

cheesecake · Post by **cheesecake** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:32 am

i wonder whether if there is not an error between these two references from dragon armor :

60296 named "SdKfz 251/7 Ausf D, Unidentified Unit, Italy 1944"

and

60306 named "SdKfz 251/7 Ausf D, Pz. Lehr Division, Southern Normandy 1944"

because on the first, we can see the Panzerlehr patch :

Furthermore, the number marking show an panzerlehr vehicle for me !!

What do you think about this ?

jrs. · Post by **jrs.** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:37 pm

I dont know I think a lot of people worry too much. I may be in the minority but I buy toys... Unit markings and number plates mean little to me.

If i were a collector and was paying dragons higher prices I may worry??? Clearly its the Panzerlehr marked. I would imagine 80% of what dragon sales ends up in the hands of people who wouldnt know anyway?

Either way its a sweet 1/2 track... I want a 32X version

Panzer_M · Post by **Panzer_M** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:57 pm

If the brain is working...it could be Grenadier-Lehr-Brigade, formed 6.44 and absorbed 10.44 by another Infantrie Unit.

Monticelli / Monte Altuzzo
In linea

Fallschirm-Jäger-Regiment 12. (4. Fallschirm – Division)

In linea - unità di rincalzo

Grenadier - Lehr - Brigade < puts the unit in Italia.
Litauer-Bataillon
Infanterie-Regiment 735 (715 Infanterie – Division)
Divisions-Füsilier-Bataillon 305. (305. Infanterie - Division

Panzer_M · Post by **Panzer_M** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:59 pm

ah, the power of research.

jrs. · Post by **jrs.** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 8:39 pm

You guys know way too much!

ltcbj · Post by **ltcbj** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 6:54 am

What hath the internet wrought?

graycap · Post by **graycap** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:33 pm

I think Dragon 's packaging has got confused. The U/i Italy version is, I'm pretty sure, a Panzer Lehr vehicle from Normandy - it looks like a vehicle I've seen pictured knocked out near ST Lo. The Dragon model purporting to be a Panzer Lehr vehicle has SS number plates - Panzer Lehr was a Heer formation so that can't be right.

There is a photograph which has appered in a number of publications showing a vehicle of that type in 12 SS "Hitler Jugend" insignia (in fact it appears on the box of of the "Italy" vehicle).

EnemyAce · Post by **EnemyAce** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:51 pm

Maybe they just got the boxes switched in China?

ltcbj · Post by **ltcbj** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 5:25 pm

and don't lick the paint.

ChairmanMilo · Post by **ChairmanMilo** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:49 am

Someone probably messed up the labeling on the boxes, that's all.

I plan on getting the other one (60306) and it doesn't break my heart that it's mislabeled

It's just interesting to have a vehicle with the 28mm squeeze-bore gun... I remember using it in Steel Panthers, and lucky shots were able to penetrate the armor of Grants and Shermans sometimes.