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				review of the PanzerStahl Sd.Kfz.234 series
				Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 2:18 pm
				by the_bird
				I just received the new Panzerstahl Sd.Kfz.234/3 (88016) & Sd.Kfz.234/1 (88012) from a fellow forum member.  
I’m very impressed with the paint and details are great. they keep getting better I feel they have surpassed HM armored car series with these 2 pieces. The paint scheme is what I like best very realistic and well done. I’m no expert on these vehicles as many here so maybe someone can tell me how accurate the markings are? A_G posted some actual pics in his listings
http://cgi.ebay.com/PANZERSTAHL-1-72-Sd ... 2310818ed7
http://cgi.ebay.com/PANZERSTAHL-1-72-Sd ... 231081940c 
			 
			
					
				Re: review of the PanzerStahl Sd.Kfz.234 series
				Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 4:01 pm
				by Heer
				Nice. I have 1 of HM puma and 1 panzerstahl puma. I only have HM's 234/3, and it is just basic yellow though. The 234/1 looks good though.
			 
			
					
				Re: review of the PanzerStahl Sd.Kfz.234 series
				Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 7:09 pm
				by EnemyAce
				Does the turret rotate?  Can you see anyway you could make it rotate if it doesn't?
			 
			
					
				Re: review of the PanzerStahl Sd.Kfz.234 series
				Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 5:59 am
				by AMERICAN_GRENADIER
				the turret doesnt move
			 
			
					
				Re: review of the PanzerStahl Sd.Kfz.234 series
				Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 6:04 pm
				by EnemyAce
				Is it glued down?  Molded to the superstructure?  I would only consider getting this if there is a solution that would allow the turret to rotate.  If not, I'm waiting for HM!
			 
			
					
				Re: review of the PanzerStahl Sd.Kfz.234 series
				Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 6:44 pm
				by the_bird
				it appears to me that the piece is seprate but its hard to tell
			 
			
					
				Re: review of the PanzerStahl Sd.Kfz.234 series
				Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 6:50 pm
				by EnemyAce
				It looks separate, which makes it kind of bizarre to me that it doesn't rotate.
			 
			
					
				Re: review of the PanzerStahl Sd.Kfz.234 series
				Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 7:33 am
				by the_bird
				i didnt think to check til you mentioned it 
 
but i display in the cases so not a big deal for me
 
			 
			
					
				Re: review of the PanzerStahl Sd.Kfz.234 series
				Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 10:51 am
				by Gambit
				I was disappointed that the turret and wheels don't move.
The wheels I can live with but IMHO at that price the turret should move.
Frankly I expected more from a German company based on the quality of the antennas and detail but I assumed wrong. I should have noticed they did identify when the turret moved on the Marder 1 A3, so as always it's buyer beware and I should have read the description carefully. I wonder what happened to their pre-orders and sales once it was known. I cancelled my future pre-orders for duplicates as I wanted them for diorama purposes.
I inspected the undercarriage and I don't see how it could be easily taken apart to make the
turret move but maybe someone will take up the challenge.
			 
			
					
				Re: review of the PanzerStahl Sd.Kfz.234 series
				Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 10:59 am
				by Heer
				I have one of panzerstahl puma as well. The turret seens to be molded into the superstructure. If you want a puma that has a rotating turret and rolling wheels, HM made one not long ago for about 20 bucks. I bought both, and they both look good.
			 
			
					
				Re: review of the PanzerStahl Sd.Kfz.234 series
				Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 11:21 am
				by Gambit
				I waited for the Panzerstahl because of their aerials so I'll have to wait for HM to release another version otherwise its e-bay I think.
			 
			
					
				Re: review of the PanzerStahl Sd.Kfz.234 series
				Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 7:02 am
				by StormyThoughts
				For me PS 234s present themselves better than HMs.