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* Tempting , No ?

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:55 pm
by MG-42
* "Mighty tempting" , but the pri¢e of these K&C pieces kills , w/ the exception of the Italian Armor ,.. which is almost a Muss Haben !


<center> K&C [+] Semovente M40-75/18 SPG

(Port side)
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* I threw the Airfix set in cause it's the same tank as the finished K&C model. I did this because it basically has the same paint scheme shown on the box , which I have stored in my basement for now.

............ I know it's kind of a stupid question , but do you think any of these are worth it ? ... I realize that these are wayyy expensive but I myself or a few of us , may have to settle for stuff like this. I don't know. :roll: ... I hope not. :? ... 1:35 is just too small for me.

* I gather that there are more Italian action pieces to come , from the K&C line next year , sometime in 2010.

........ possibly an M13/40 , or an Autoblinda , I'd bet.



- Mitch v MG

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 6:21 pm
by hworth18
Believe it or not, there is a large collecting market for these that they regularly sell out, and go way up in value. :wink:

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 7:28 pm
by ketelone
I traded for the Semovente at the September Toy Soldier show. Great piece. I have also previously purchased Figarti's Chevy truck and the SAS jeeps. I know they're expensive, but the same old vehicles get boring. The K&C pieces are fantastic but the majority of them are just too big when placed next to 1/32 pieces. Some of the K&C pieces, such as the older Panzers, work well.

Sadly it's really difficult to find old K&C at a reasonable prices. Figarti on the other hand can be found. I've purchased Stuart tanks and Humvees for less than $20. I've also been able to buy Britains and Frontline pieces for $30.

* K&C stuff ?

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:50 pm
by MG-42
* Their newer pieces have certainly gotten better detailed. Especially to the lower chassis of tanks & tracked vehicles in general.

........ this I'm sure has added to the ¢o$t & collectibility.


- Mitch v MG

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:32 pm
by aferguson
K&C are 1/30 scale...noticably larger than 1/32 and much bigger than 1/35.

They make nice stuff but i don't care much for their figures. Someone once said they look like they were made by Disney and i agree.

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:36 am
by ketelone
I really like K&C but I'm so entrenched in 1/32. To start over would be like reinventing the wheel....

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:11 am
by AMERICAN_GRENADIER
agree figures are a bit cartoonish. but the tanks are nicely done

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 12:39 pm
by DomiUK
If you think K&C are a bit on the expensive side take a look at http://www.firstlegionltd.com/54mmwwiis ... rmans.aspx

I actually do not rate K&C as they have scale problems and I definately have them down as cartoony but the first legion offerings are soo impressive that even at £45 a figure I am seriously considering collecting these.

I have no hesitation in saying they are far and away the finest painted toy soldiers I have ever seen.

Image

Picture stolen from fmethorst on another forum, his excellant photograph.

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 2:13 pm
by aferguson
those are 1/32? Holy nice but quite a price tag for a 2 inch figure.

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 2:44 pm
by DomiUK
yep 1/32 note the guy at the back pointing the detail of his fingernail.

I am lucky enough to own some very well painted figures that I have had commissioned over the years but I am still very impressed with these.

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:37 pm
by snake
Fantastic looking figures.VERY realistic.

But $50? :shock:

But I am not a figure guy.

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:42 pm
by Ruger
snake wrote:Fantastic looking figures.VERY realistic.

But $50? :shock:

But I am not a figure guy.
Actually, 45 pounds converts to about $75 at today's rate.

I'm also not a figure guy. $75 will buy tanks thanks.

MV

* Tempting , No ?

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:35 pm
by MG-42
......... sheesh ! ... these guys do look great but are they per set or per figure. If they are per figure , then I can live w/o them as I'm not that much of a connoisseur.

* "Btw" ,.. I do realize the scale difference of the K&C figures & vehicles however and agree that most of their figures look cartoonish but not all of them look this way.

I own a vehicle and a figure set which , actually , am quite pleased w/ my figures in particularly. They are the BoB GI POW set w/ SS captor. These don't look cartoonish @ all.

* I had 4 other vehicles @ one time but sold them about 4 yrs. ago ,.. sadly.


v MG

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:37 pm
by snake
Not to be anal, Ruger,but the website showed the cost at $49.99.
Dollars,not Pounds.

Either way,as you say
"I would take tanks,thanks" :D

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:05 pm
by Ruger
My mistake, I hadn't checked the website, I was only going off of what the poster had said. Perhaps that's his cost? I checked some of the UK dealer sites, and they seem to want 45 pounds per soldier. Either way, too much for me!

MV

Good looking stuff

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:22 am
by bboc
The First Legion figures look very much like some of the high quality figures that have been done by Russian companies. I have a Civil War figure from Aero-Art that I paid $70.00 for in 2001. It is incredibly well done and I don't regret spending that much.

According to their web-site, First Legion will only do mail-order, or you can get some things from George Guerriero's MinuteMen Toy Soldiers at a trade show. I have bought many items from George in the last ten years. He is a very personable man and responds to his emails quickly. You can find his website readily where he lists the shows he attends and he deals in FOV also.

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:36 pm
by 1958Zelda
Those figures are very nice!

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 11:36 am
by uksubs
First Legion make a Stug tank for $300.00 :shock:
For me you can't go wrong with Dragon !/35 armour + come with a better paint job than K&C & half the price
Think some of K&C new British vehicles are worth getting for the right price & have just got the truck cheap from the EU

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:32 pm
by Col.Pickle
First Legion guys look amazing! They're painting is great, yes, but I think the scaling is perfect!!! They don't look as chunky as the K&C figs often do but look less lanky than other manufacturers (21st for example). And of course, they're a far sight better than Popeye's Toy Company AKA FOV :wink:

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 4:15 pm
by ketelone
I saw the First Legion at the Toy Soldier show in September. I also saw their tank. The figures are fantastic but expensive. They would go great with Britains, Conte, 1/32 Figarti, and Old Northwest. Even Frontline figures would work. They'd definitely be dwarfed by K&C figures and vehicles. The Legion tank was nice but not worth $300. It's all plastic.... If they ever fall in price I'd definitely consider them.....

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 4:18 pm
by ketelone
Yesterday I picked up 2 more of the K&C North Africa buildings. They're great! Even though they are supposedly 1/30, they'll go well with my 1/32.... These buildings would serve many eras, from biblical times to present day...