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Who Has 21st's 32X Molds Now?

Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 11:23 am
by Dauntless
With JSI buying up some of the XD molds from 21st Century Toys, I'm wondering if they or anyone bought up the 32X stuff?

Were they the manufacturer of some of the 1:32 scale models for 21'st?

While some of the early stuff I really don't see any point in re-releasing, but some of the later molds were outstanding like the FW-190A and the redone P-51D, P-51 B/C, the Opel trucks, Panther tanks etc.

Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 7:56 pm
by hotrodrock
Its interesting that nobody in this forum seems interested at all that JSI is apparently releasing items from molds which were formerly released by 21st Century. As I understand it Dauntless, JSI possibly owned the molds to start with. That has been stated but is still a little unclear. It would stand to reason that if they did, they probably have access to the 1/32 molds also. I realize that 21st's releases were not as detailed as FOV, but then again, they were about half the price of FOV's most recent releases. Not a lot of releases recently from 21st in the armor area, but lots of pretty nice planes.

Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 10:08 pm
by [CAT]CplSlade
hotrodrock wrote:Its interesting that nobody in this forum seems interested at all that JSI is apparently releasing items from molds which were formerly released by 21st Century.
Yeah, there's only been about a dozen threads discussing JSI so far. What's up with that?

Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 11:45 pm
by jkinzel
:?: I've tried to google JSI to see products but can't find anything.Anybody know what their website is?

Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 12:23 am
by Sky Ray
I guess most of the 1:32 crowd didn't look at the news threads over at the 1:18 section, the 1:18 forum has been flooded with JSI threads for while now.

Anyways here's a bunch of links, I might have missed a few...
Official company website:
http://jsitoys.com/

Merit, the distributor for JSI in North America has a little catalog of what's coming for 1:18.
http://www.merit-intl.com/vendor/js.html

Articles at Bad Cat Toys on JSI:
http://www.talesofthecat.com/journal/20 ... -hope.html

http://www.talesofthecat.com/journal/20 ... order.html

http://www.talesofthecat.com/journal/20 ... vered.html

Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 6:35 am
by Dauntless
hotrodrock wrote:Its interesting that nobody in this forum seems interested at all that JSI is apparently releasing items from molds which were formerly released by 21st Century. As I understand it Dauntless, JSI possibly owned the molds to start with. That has been stated but is still a little unclear. It would stand to reason that if they did, they probably have access to the 1/32 molds also. I realize that 21st's releases were not as detailed as FOV, but then again, they were about half the price of FOV's most recent releases. Not a lot of releases recently from 21st in the armor area, but lots of pretty nice planes.
Sounds logical that they would have the 32X molds too, by the way you explain it.



Yeah, I've been reading the 1:18 forums, I collect XD as well, no mention of the 32X molds in there, or on the links, hence the speculation here.

Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 9:03 am
by hotrodrock
[CAT]CplSlade wrote:
hotrodrock wrote:Its interesting that nobody in this forum seems interested at all that JSI is apparently releasing items from molds which were formerly released by 21st Century.
Yeah, there's only been about a dozen threads discussing JSI so far. What's up with that?
I just finished looking at all of the threads here in the 1/32 section and I see nothing about JSI. What dozen threads?

Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 9:32 am
by RAD 2112
Most, if not all, of the JSI talk has been on the 1:18 Scale Forum.

I noticed they're releasing a 1:18 F-14.
What are the odds we'll see a 1/32 F-14 in the near future?
That would be a nice follow-up to BBI's F-4.

I would be interested to know who the keeper of 1/32 molds are as well.
I agree with Dauntless that there are a lot of repaints that could be made from the latest 21C issues (ie FW-190A/F, P-51D, P-51 B/C, and Spitfire)

Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 11:29 am
by [CAT]CplSlade
hotrodrock wrote:
[CAT]CplSlade wrote: Yeah, there's only been about a dozen threads discussing JSI so far. What's up with that?
I just finished looking at all of the threads here in the 1/32 section and I see nothing about JSI. What dozen threads?
By this forum I meant the entire forum, not just 1/32. But I see now what you were driving at exactly.

I'm a 1/32 collector myself, but I frequent all the sub-forums as you never know what interesting info you may pick up.

Wow...

Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 11:31 am
by binder001
Very interesting...

I am one of those who generally doesn't read the 1:18 forum, so this was all new to me. I am interested to see if this outfit re-releases the 1/32 stuff also. It would be NICE if they had some of the development material for things that 21C intended but never released such as the Dodge 6X6 truck, Grant tank, and infantry heavy weapons sets that were all shown as prototypes but were never produced. Sorry not to mention planes but I am a "tankie" - I don't have the room or much inclination to get the planes.

Please keep us informed of any further news.

Gary

Look to the sky...

Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 11:49 am
by c44
I wanna see the old & the new...but my biggest wonder right now is will we see the at least almost ready-to-go British paras...

Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 12:34 pm
by hworth18
I honestly don't know whats going on nowadays..

Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 12:46 pm
by jlspec
hworth18 wrote: I guess I need to make some phone calls... :?
Please do
Thanks

Re: Wow...

Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 1:48 pm
by Sky Ray
binder001 wrote:Very interesting...

I am one of those who generally doesn't read the 1:18 forum, so this was all new to me. I am interested to see if this outfit re-releases the 1/32 stuff also. It would be NICE if they had some of the development material for things that 21C intended but never released such as the Dodge 6X6 truck, Grant tank, and infantry heavy weapons sets that were all shown as prototypes but were never produced. Sorry not to mention planes but I am a "tankie" - I don't have the room or much inclination to get the planes.

Please keep us informed of any further news.

Gary
The 1:18 forum is flooded with JSI threads. Currently an Israeli F-15 Eagle and Chinese SU-27 Flanker is on its way to 1:18 scale.

Speaking of the 1:32 molds, what would that leave the 1:48s and 1:144s? Would they be automatically lumped in with the 1:32s (since they are basically scaled down models) or are they separate property belonging to New Millenium Toys?

Re: Wow...

Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 2:57 pm
by hworth18
New Millenium Toys IS or rather WAS 21st Century toys under the Walmart brand (replaced motorworx), just like 4-Star Military toys was for Target.

Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 8:04 pm
by AMERICAN_GRENADIER
we can only hope and wait!

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 10:01 am
by nooker21
old molds + new company = new repaints and hope for more Mustangs and Spitfires.

By the way, how hard or expensive is it for another company to remove the logos from a mold? Hasbro has done it with old Kenner molds...

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 1:57 pm
by AMERICAN_GRENADIER
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 7:58 pm
by hworth18
I have checked around and there is no word on where the 1/32 went or who owns them now. Most manufacturers that might have been a player aren't going anywhere until the economy picks back up. :(

Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 10:12 am
by jkinzel
Bad cat newsletter today has some more info.

Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 5:10 pm
by Panzer_M
more info on the BC?

Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 1:32 pm
by Rowsdower
Let's hope for some 1:32 goodness! 8)

1:32 Molds

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 1:06 pm
by lightning2000
Hello,
Its entirely possible that 21st still owns these molds and hasnt sold them off as yet for whatever reason. Or, it could be a case where the new owner isnt prepared as yet to indicate that they are in possession of the molds, particularly if they're looking to rebrand the series under a new name. Its too early to say what will happen to these molds given the current state of flux in the economy and time horizon for their reemergence...

Lightning2000
www.themotorpool.net

Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 9:44 am
by Sky Ray
Just in case you guys haven't seen it on the 1:18 board yet, there are new developments for JSI, their other website list more 1:18 aircraft and vehicles that have been acquired by JSI. They've also acquired some 1:18 figures and 1:144 vehicles now.

JSI's news section shows some packaging pics of the 1:18 Tiger, P-38, and M16MGMC, and as well as more upclose non-model pics of the rest of their products at the Hong Kong Toys & Game Fair on the "More image" link.

Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 7:33 pm
by Dauntless
Yeah that's good news, :) but no news on the 1:32 yet. :cry: