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LOOK INSIDE NEW------ F-14 1/32 WOW!!!!!------------------

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 2:43 am
by VMF115
http://www.famemaster.com/Product/4D-Pu ... Model.html

Its from a company called Fame Master Enterprise

for sale here http://www.hwjapan.com/sh/SKY179317.aspx

$175.47

OK all you 1/32 guys get your check books ready .......................
I spent 20 Min's looking for the 1/18th tomcat and found this....... 8)

Did I do good ???????????????

Do I get a cookie??????????????

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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 3:44 am
by demonclaw
Looks like a fun kit to build but I would never spend over 100$ for a 1:32 model , especially when the Tamiya 1:32 F-14 and Hasegawa 1:32 f-16 only cost 45-50$


I'm probably gonna start building 1:32 planes when I get some new better tools and paint

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 3:48 am
by VMF115
but this looks like its pretty much done right out of the box.
look at the picture of the box...you will see painted jet engines and pilots......

4D Vision Vehicles Cutaway 4D Puzzle Toy -
F-14A Jolly Rogers Cutaway Model Item No. :26121
● F-14A Cutaway Model 4D Puzzle Toy consists of 167 pcs parts
● F-14A Cutaway Model Toy with New Puzzle Concept
● Fine Detailed Sculpturing with hand painted parts
● Cutaway design shows the engines
● Product Size: 59.5 cm Long
● Packaging : 4 pcs, Ctn Cube : 4.5 cu.ft.

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 3:56 am
by VMF115
here is a build by the numbers of the 1/72 space shuttle tha tis put out by the same guys.
http://www.starshipmodeler.com/real/mb_shuttle.htm
http://www.starshipmodeler.com/real/mb_shuttle.htm

I assembled this model in an evening of not very intense effort, except the SSME plumbing, which took quite a bit of test fitting to find the right parts. Resist the urge to trust the friction-fit feature of this kit. At least use some super glue on the main gear tires, flight deck and sleeping berth figures, vertical tail parts, the beavertail flap, and the SSMEs and their plumbing. Otherwise, you'll be re-assembling several times initially and losing the parts later.

For this price, I would have liked to have had more and more accurate interior detail and engraved Thermal Protection System (TPS) lines. The clear flight deck canopy prevents you from having a complete exterior view from the starboard side, not to say you couldn't paint it yourself.

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 4:13 am
by demonclaw
VMF115 wrote:but this looks like its pretty much done right out of the box.
look at the picture of the box...you will see painted jet engines and pilots......

4D Vision Vehicles Cutaway 4D Puzzle Toy -
F-14A Jolly Rogers Cutaway Model Item No. :26121
● F-14A Cutaway Model 4D Puzzle Toy consists of 167 pcs parts
● F-14A Cutaway Model Toy with New Puzzle Concept
● Fine Detailed Sculpturing with hand painted parts
● Cutaway design shows the engines
● Product Size: 59.5 cm Long
● Packaging : 4 pcs, Ctn Cube : 4.5 cu.ft.
Yeah I know its some kind of kit you just have to glue together (or snap together) but It's still way cheaper to buy the tamiya kit and paint it yourself (its hardly a complicated paint scheme )

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 4:17 am
by VMF115
buy most people can't do that..beside it looks like the front
landing gear is retractable (not sure about the main L/G)
.
the last time I checked the tamiya kit did not offer those features............. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Any ways this is probably going to be the closest thing to a finished 1/32 F-14 model.

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 4:45 am
by demonclaw
VMF115 wrote:buy most people can't do that..
Most people who don't have some kind of disability can do it but I can understand that most people think its too much hassle (otherwise dragon wouldn't sell diecast models :D) . I can also understand that many people rather buy diecast models since its actually more expressive (and time consuming) to build one in most cases , but when we see finished models or snap kits that cost over 100$ more than a kit (or don't exist at all in finished form) it might be a good idea to consider learning how to build and paint . And with the release of the 1:32 bf-110 and 1:32 Ju-88 its become something more and more worth learning


I've only built 1:72 models but next year I'm gonna get some 1:32 plane kits and some 1:35 japanese tanks from finemolds (if I can find em cheap enough on ebay) . The only think that's held me back from buying em earlier is lack of time and better tools

VMF115 wrote: beside it looks like the landing gear is reactable as well.the last time I checked the tamiya kit did not offer those features............. :roll: :roll: :roll:


That's not really a important feature unless you're gonna play with it and its easily fixed if you want to put in some extra work

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 4:52 am
by VMF115
More power to you but this is probably going to be the first semi assembled f-14 in 1/32 for some time. unless Bbi or FOV puts one out.........Now if this 1/18th I don't think you would mind

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 6:37 am
by dragon53
VMF115:

Ironically, I already have a model of the F-14, VF-84, #201--it's the Century Wings 1/72 version sitting 5 feet behind me now.
I'm still hoping the 1/18 F-14 is a reality---I collect North Carolina-related models and the 1/18 F-14 is from VF-154, USS KITTY HAWK. I've already ordered the Century Wings 1/72 F-14, USS KITTY HAWK----but based on the detail I've seen in Tamiya kits, if the 1/18 F-14 is from Tamiya, I'd probably buy it.

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 6:48 am
by VMF115
but its 1/32 8)

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 7:36 am
by demonclaw
VMF115 wrote:More power to you but this is probably going to be the first semi assembled f-14 in 1/32 for some time. unless Bbi or FOV puts one out.........Now if this 1/18th I don't think you would mind
I'm not a 1:18 collector anymore but I'm sure a lot of those who still are would love one . But I personally don't understand why some hardcore collectors just keep writing about X aircraft they like too see in finished form (that probably never will be made since most of em have little mass market appeal ) when many of those aircraft exist in kit form . If anyone really want one of those aircrafts I think it's worth buying the necessary tools and start reading some of the tutorials on the net , even if you're not a very good painter you can still easily achive a 21st century quality paintjob (thats made by simple factory workers) all it takes is a lot of patience . I guess a good kit too start of with would be one of 21st Century's ones that seem very simple to assemble with little need of any tools





Here are some of the 1:32 aircraft's you gonna miss out if you restrict yourself to finished models :

WW2 : Ju 88, 162 Salamander , 163 Komet , bf-110 , Mig-3

Modern : f-14 ,f-15 , f-16 , f-18 , su-27 , mig-29 , A-10

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:24 am
by VMF115
The Tamiya F-14 is not for beginners..the first one I bought years ago ended up in the trash...it was not until I got tips for expert modelers on how to tackle it and address some of the issues.....the next one went together alright but less then satisfactory...the third time the charm....I got it the way I wanted it but spent a pretty penny getting aftermarket parts to enhance it.

and it still does not compare to what this guy did with his f-14...his is 100 times better.

http://www.naritafamily.com/howto/howtoindex.htm

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:28 am
by dragon53
I have zero skills and patience so a Tamiya kit wouldn't be a viable option for me---thank god for BBI and their 1/32 F-4J.
Now I wish BBI would get busy and release more 1/32 planes---particularly jets.

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:35 am
by VMF115
Even if Bbi made a 1/32 tomcat it would never be as detailed as this one. :wink:

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:42 am
by dragon53
VMF115:

True, but beggars can't be choosers. I waited and waited on BBI's 1/32 F-104. When Badcat said the F-104 was in limbo, I gave up and ordered Hobby Master's too-small 1/72 F-104---along with BBI's 1/32 Dauntless and Wildcat.

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:43 am
by hotrodrock
$176!!!! WOW is right. I think the majority of the members of our board are pretty typical guys when it comes to collecting considereing the posts I have read over the years. I believe that means that there is a very small minority of the members who would pay $175 even for a completely assembled and painted 1/32 model.

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:47 am
by dragon53
I wonder what the shipping cost for the 1/32 F-14 to the USA would be---that certainly is a great-looking F-14.

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:55 am
by Dauntless
Wow, a snap together pre-painted 1:32 Tomcat puzzle. I like it.

Wonder if they would release a non-see through for half that price would be cool enough for me, but still this is nice.

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 7:15 pm
by VMF115
I think they have that option with this one bird.

Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 12:39 am
by iflabs
demonclaw wrote:Looks like a fun kit to build but I would never spend over 100$ for a 1:32 model , especially when the Tamiya 1:32 F-14 and Hasegawa 1:32 f-16 only cost 45-50$


I'm probably gonna start building 1:32 planes when I get some new better tools and paint
The only reason why I'm buying these finished mass produced planes is because I simply don't have the skills or the tools, else I would be in happy land with all the different aircrafts available in kits.

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:00 am
by olifant
Patrick, I am amazed at the lack of interest in your find. :shock:

YOU DID DAMN GOOD WORK FINDING THIS. HERE, HAVE A PLATE OF COOKIES!!!!! :D

I doubt I will part with $200 to get this to my door but I sure wish I could. Demonclaw, I don't have a disability but there is no way I could put together a 1/32 Tamiya kit, paint it and have it look good. I may as well hammer two 2'X4's together and spray paint them green... :roll:

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:15 am
by demonclaw
olifant wrote: Demonclaw, I don't have a disability but there is no way I could put together a 1/32 Tamiya kit, paint it and have it look good. I may as well hammer two 2'X4's together and spray paint them green... :roll:
Building a model sounds more troublesome than it really is , if you just follow the instructions (and look up some basic modeling tips) nothing can go wrong but it does take a lot of patience and time . Painting isn't really that hard either if you look up some tutorial and practice on cheaper kits , its also important that you have a good airbrush and other necessary tools .


And painting a Tamiya 1:32 f-14 won't take a lot of work , if you look at some tutorials you can see that it have a really simple paint scheme and most of the paint work consist of painting the upper side in medium gray , the lower in ghost grey and adding the decals (theres even decals for the cockpit ) . That makes the model look ok (like the 21stC planes) but if you wanna achieve the kind of detail you see on modeling sites its gonna take a lot more practice

where to buy ?

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:34 am
by supersonicfifi
Does anybody knows where is it possible to buy one ? i think it will be nice beside my BBI PHANTOM !!!!

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:46 am
by thetatau87
iflabs wrote:
demonclaw wrote:Looks like a fun kit to build but I would never spend over 100$ for a 1:32 model , especially when the Tamiya 1:32 F-14 and Hasegawa 1:32 f-16 only cost 45-50$


I'm probably gonna start building 1:32 planes when I get some new better tools and paint
The only reason why I'm buying these finished mass produced planes is because I simply don't have the skills or the tools, else I would be in happy land with all the different aircrafts available in kits.
Another thing to consider when comparing finished models vs. kits is the time involved. I was a decent model builder when I was a kid, but the days of summers off and long holiday breaks are long past. My time is far to valuable now to sink the required time into building a 1:32 kit that could rival the detail of that Tomcat. If a good kit goes for $50 and this finished model is $175 that only leaves $125 to pay for paint, supplies and my time.

I don't know about anyone else but if I could pay someone $125 to do a job (even one that I would enjoy) that would take me at least 10-20 hours I would gladly pay them and enjoy the finished product and spend my time on other projects that others can't do cheaper and faster that I could do myself.

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:16 am
by thetatau87
demonclaw wrote:
olifant wrote: Demonclaw, I don't have a disability but there is no way I could put together a 1/32 Tamiya kit, paint it and have it look good. I may as well hammer two 2'X4's together and spray paint them green... :roll:
Building a model sounds more troublesome than it really is , if you just follow the instructions (and look up some basic modeling tips) nothing can go wrong but it does take a lot of patience and time . Painting isn't really that hard either if you look up some tutorial and practice on cheaper kits , its also important that you have a good airbrush and other necessary tools .


And painting a Tamiya 1:32 f-14 won't take a lot of work , if you look at some tutorials you can see that it have a really simple paint scheme and most of the paint work consist of painting the upper side in medium gray , the lower in ghost grey and adding the decals (theres even decals for the cockpit ) . That makes the model look ok (like the 21stC planes) but if you wanna achieve the kind of detail you see on modeling sites its gonna take a lot more practice
How long have you been building models and how many have you built? How much do you have invested in tools and supplies?

Personally I spend about 10 years building models from age 10-20. I had a modest investment in tools, but never got good with an airbrush because buying a decent one was out of my price range. I would never say that building a model is easy. Simply following the instructions is a sure way to a disappointing result. The instructions are often wrong or the paint instructions over simplified. A correct paint scheme requires research and detailed photos of actual aircraft. Many kits (even "good" ones) require putty filling & sanding and other advanced techniques that are far beyond a first timer. Airbrushing is an art that not everyone has the talent to do well. Let alone the time and $ to buy good equipment and "practice" on cheaper kits. If you are good at it and find it easy, more power to you, but saying it only takes patience and time is a far cry from the truth.

For the vast majority of collectors kits are simply not an option for several reasons including time and talent as the top two. You seem to think model building is like paint by numbers and that's great for you, the model kit world is your oyster. For the rest of us, finished kits like this Tomcat are a godsend because we would never be able to have a detailed expertly painted model like this in our collection if it wasn't available in finished form.

$175 is a very fair price and I'll be saving my $ to buy this F-14 and other kits like it if they are produced. In the past the only option was to buy kits and spend lots of $ and time trying to get good results or to pay $1000's for a super-detailed large scale finished model. Just recently the market has started to produce finished models that don't require any time or talent and are reasonably priced in the reach of anyone who can stash away a few $ a month. This is the first super-detailed finished model that I've ever seen that is even feasible for me to afford. I'm very excited to see where I can buy models from this company and what future aircraft they may build.