Revell German Aircraft Carrier Graf Zeppelin

panzertruppen · Post by **panzertruppen** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:34 am

I recently got this model kit to make over Christmas. Anyone else have it and has any opinions on it? Just wondering

AMERICAN_GRENADIER · Post by **AMERICAN_GRENADIER** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:21 pm

I did it a couple years ago from another company. its a nice historical piece. but it was never even close to finished. She basocally was tugged around from port to port. eventually being striped for usable parts. I have a prtty interesting book on it.

ltcbj · Post by **ltcbj** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:56 pm

What scale?

Does it come with aircraft?

panzertruppen · Post by **panzertruppen** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:00 pm

It's 1:720 scale and does come with aircraft.

ltcbj · Post by **ltcbj** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:15 pm

Cool.

What a/c are they?

And how many?

Thank you

AMERICAN_GRENADIER · Post by **AMERICAN_GRENADIER** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:30 pm

the one i built had stuka's and what looked like bf-109's

panzertruppen · Post by **panzertruppen** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:33 pm

AMERICAN_GRENADIER wrote:the one i built had stuka's and what looked like bf-109's

I think they are the planes (I've just put the kit away till Christmas).

ltcbj · Post by **ltcbj** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:38 pm

I wonder if the planes are available as a 'stand alone' item?

Panzer_M · Post by **Panzer_M** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:34 pm

Ju87C and Bf109Ts(both aircraft actually saw combat)

The Arado Biplane Torp bomber I don't know if it went into production of the top of my head...I'd have to look that one up/

Fox Tare-28 · Post by **Fox Tare-28** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:02 am

Panzer_M wrote:Ju87C and Bf109Ts(both aircraft actually saw combat)

The Arado Biplane Torp bomber I don't know if it went into production of the top of my head...I'd have to look that one up/

Fieseler Fi 167.
http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/fi167.html

AMERICAN_GRENADIER · Post by **AMERICAN_GRENADIER** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 7:34 pm

Arado AR 1995 V3 and AR 197 V3 were to be a torpedo planes but performance was poor and it was abandoned.
the Arado AR 198 was going to be a ship board fighter but was also scrapped.Arado had no operational torpedo aircraft during the war. They did have some float planes AR 196A-3 that were used for reconnaisance.

Fieseler actually made better progress with the FI 167 2 seat torpedo bomber. 12 wer built FI 167A-0 and accepted by the Luftwaffe for testing. the program was cancelled when the decision was made to use the JU87D
re designated the JU 87E torpedo bomber. By then the grf Zepplin was cancelled.

vmf214 · Post by **vmf214** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:50 pm

Pretty nice kit, I have the Revell one as well.

ltcbj · Post by **ltcbj** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:28 am

How much in resources and energy was devoted to the Graf Zeppelin and how might it have helped the war effort if it had gone to other arms?

AMERICAN_GRENADIER · Post by **AMERICAN_GRENADIER** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 4:57 pm

to much! not only did they waste time with the Graf Zeppelin but they also began to convert 2 passenger ships the Europa & Potsdam. Im not done yet they also had planes for the de Grasse a French heavy cruiser even began to convert these but found it way to expensive. all were halted in 1943.
Then all the time spent developing planes and anti aircraft guns? I dont think its ever really been studied but i assume it cost them far to many resources and money.

ltcbj · Post by **ltcbj** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 5:14 pm

I didn't know about the other conversions. Really a major case of overreaching.

panzertruppen · Post by **panzertruppen** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 6:31 am

I've just completed the kit but still need to paint it.

ltcbj · Post by **ltcbj** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 6:51 am

pix??

AMERICAN_GRENADIER · Post by **AMERICAN_GRENADIER** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 7:49 am

panzertruppen wrote:I've just completed the kit but still need to paint it.

please post some pics. i just ordered another one since the one i had is in bad shape. doing the research has re sparked my interest!

AMERICAN_GRENADIER · Post by **AMERICAN_GRENADIER** » Tue Dec 30, 2008 3:15 pm

found this! this is the book i have great book!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0277174356