New 32x product on AREA-21

tko211 · Post by **tko211** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:13 pm

Title says it all! Check out the big guns!

luftpanzer · Post by **luftpanzer** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:38 pm

Cool M59 Long Tom. Now we need the M9 Gun Tractor to tow it.

ostketten · Post by **ostketten** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:47 pm

Looking very good, this is great news!! Will these have crew figures and accessories too....???

binder001 · Post by **binder001** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:46 pm

These look really good! Now I can sell my W. Britains one and get these instead.

By the way - "M59" and "M115" are NATO era designations, in WW2 it was the more cumbersome "155mm gun M2 on carriage M2" and variations of that.

The proper towing vehicles were the 18-ton High Speed Tractor M4 (looks kind of like a Stuart's running gear) or the 7.5 ton Mack model NO 6X6 truck (imagine a GI 6X6 on steroids!). Either of these would be great - I personally prefer the tracked tractor as there was a Revell kit of this in 1/40th scale when I was a kid.

Looks like a couple good additions for the 1/32nd scale crowd.

Gary

rose4472g · Post by **rose4472g** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:41 pm

Wasn't there a self proppelled 155? M12 maybe?

David

Post by **aferguson** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 5:10 am

self propelled was post war.

Long Tom was also towed by medium (and occassionally light) bulldozers in the Pacific.

When limbered, the long tom's barrel slid back a few feet to shorten the overall towed length. It looks like 21c has encorporated this ability in their model. This did not happen on the 8 inch howitzer as it was not necessary.

The 8 inch howitzer also looks nice. As mentioned above, both the 155mm and 208mm (8 inch) howitzers were designated M1 and then M2 during the war. Only slight differences between the two designations.

Both look great! Would be really nice in 1/18, huh TKO.

Killerf6 · Post by **Killerf6** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:14 am

aferguson wrote:

Both look great! Would be really nice in 1/18, huh TKO.

I was thinking the same thing...

Quixote511 · Post by **Quixote511** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:50 am

I am jumping on the move these to XD bandwagon as well.

binder001 · Post by **binder001** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:05 am

rose4472g wrote:Wasn't there a self proppelled 155? M12 maybe?
David

Yes and no...
The M12 was built in limited numbers using a WW1-vintage French-designed 155gun (M1917A1 or M1918) on the chassis of the M3 Medium ("Lee"). 74 of these went to the ETO for use in non-divisional SP artillery battalions and were quite successful. The later 155 M2 ("Long Tom") was fitted to a modified as the M40 (with the sister M43 mounting an 8 inch howitzer). Only a couple M40s made it to Europe for comabt trials, the reast didn't come until after the war. The M40 did see good service in Korea.

Gary

rose4472g · Post by **rose4472g** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:55 pm

binder001 wrote:
rose4472g wrote:Wasn't there a self proppelled 155? M12 maybe?
David
Yes and no...
The M12 was built in limited numbers using a WW1-vintage French-designed 155gun (M1917A1 or M1918) on the chassis of the M3 Medium ("Lee"). 74 of these went to the ETO for use in non-divisional SP artillery battalions and were quite successful. The later 155 M2 ("Long Tom") was fitted to a modified as the M40 (with the sister M43 mounting an 8 inch howitzer). Only a couple M40s made it to Europe for comabt trials, the reast didn't come until after the war. The M40 did see good service in Korea.

Gary

We are enlightened

David

Rowsdower · Post by **Rowsdower** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:42 pm

Very nice! I will be picking up one of these beauties soon!

Now, how about a 1:32 M65 280mm "Atomic Cannon"

tmanthegreat · Post by **tmanthegreat** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:25 am

Cool (or should I say hot) picture

Rowsdower · Post by **Rowsdower** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:58 am

tmanthegreat wrote:Cool (or should I say hot) picture

As a matter of fact I just bought a 20x14 print of that exact shot from The "Atomic Store" Nothing like a 15 kiliton nuclear arty round going off seven miles away from you to wake you up in the morning!

tmanthegreat · Post by **tmanthegreat** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:09 pm

Rowsdower wrote:
tmanthegreat wrote:Cool (or should I say hot) picture
As a matter of fact I just bought a 20x14 print of that exact shot from The "Atomic Store" Nothing like a 15 kiliton nuclear arty round going off seven miles away from you to wake you up in the morning!

My dad, who grew up in central California in the 1950s, told me how you could get up early on the mornings in which an atomic test was being conducted in Nevada (they were usually announced in the papers) and see the flash go off to the east, coming over the Sierra Nevada mountains. Geographically, the testing grounds were only 150-200 miles away in a straight line. I imagine that if one lived in Las Vegas, they would get an even better show

Rowsdower · Post by **Rowsdower** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:14 pm

tmanthegreat wrote:My dad, who grew up in central California in the 1950s, told me how you could get up early on the mornings in which an atomic test was being conducted in Nevada (they were usually announced in the papers) and see the flash go off to the east, coming over the Sierra Nevada mountains. Geographically, the testing grounds were only 150-200 miles away in a straight line. I imagine that if one lived in Las Vegas, they would get an even better show

That would have been cool to see. I heard people in Las Vegas would be instructed to cover their eyes or look away when they were going to set one off. I have a pic somewhere from Vegas where you can see the mushroom cloud in the sky as it drifts and dissapates.

lightning2000 · Post by **lightning2000** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:23 pm

Nothing like a little radioactive fallout in your wheaties to brighten up your day! Anyone see any two headed scorpions crawling out of the blast?

Lightning2000
www.themotorpool.net

Rowsdower · Post by **Rowsdower** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:21 pm

lightning2000 wrote:Nothing like a little radioactive fallout in your wheaties to brighten up your day! Anyone see any two headed scorpions crawling out of the blast?

Lightning2000
www.themotorpool.net

But just think of the $1 all you can eat bbq giant mutant hellbeast buffets in Vegas!

binder001 · Post by **binder001** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 7:43 am

There WERE models of the 280mm M65 gun ('Atomic Cannon") and the two trucks (one on each end) produced about 45 years ago by the old Renwal model company. These had a lot of detail problems by current model standards, but the gun was QUITE the beast! There was also a toy version in the 1950s - but I don't remember the size or manufacturer. There was also a model in 1/40th scale by Adams.

Gary "very old" Binder

Rowsdower · Post by **Rowsdower** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:57 am

binder001 wrote:There WERE models of the 280mm M65 gun ('Atomic Cannon") and the two trucks (one on each end) produced about 45 years ago by the old Renwal model company. These had a lot of detail problems by current model standards, but the gun was QUITE the beast! There was also a toy version in the 1950s - but I don't remember the size or manufacturer. There was also a model in 1/40th scale by Adams.

Gary "very old" Binder

Yeah the Renwal kits pop up on eBay quite often. They usually for for $180-$200+. There was also a Revell History Makers kit made in the early 80's though I can't remember the scale. That is the one I'd like but they usually goes for $200+. I really like the huge tractors and would love to get a kit but theres no way I'm gonna pay that much. I wish they would release them again or another company make a model but I'm sure thats not going to happen.

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