Panzer IV at the Bulge?
Panzer IV at the Bulge?
I was wondering if anyone knew if the German's used any ofthe Panzer IV's with the short barrels at the Battle of the Bulge?
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short of shorts
It is my impression that by early 1943 the early, short barreled, L/24, PzIVs had either been all destroyed in battle or upgraded to L/43 or L/48 status. The PzIII-N carried the L/24 75mm gun, however, and was still in service in late 1944. It had taken up the combat support tank role and the PzIV was the main tank in the German inventory.
Of course there may have been the random, forgotten, lost in combat returned from the dead "E" or "F1" still trotting around but I would really doubt it. What kind of idiot wouldn't have destroyed it himself if only to get into a more combat worthy vehicle?
Of course there may have been the random, forgotten, lost in combat returned from the dead "E" or "F1" still trotting around but I would really doubt it. What kind of idiot wouldn't have destroyed it himself if only to get into a more combat worthy vehicle?
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Yup, the Germans where real good at coveting old equipment, especially many of the old me-109aferguson wrote:nope.....they were all either destroyed by then or converted to something else.
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Panzer IV at Battle of the Bulge
In the book "The Panzers and the Battle of Normandy" there is a series of pictures of a Panzer IVC with the short 75mm gun dated as being spring of 1944. The author states that the 21st Panzer Division had several of obsolete types of tanks in its inventory.
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PzIv- L/24
Actually by late 1942 a hollow charge shell was available for the L/24 cannon. It was still a low velocity gun but the hollow charge gave it some anti-tank effectiveness. Similar to a modern RPG.
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yes there were still the rare Kurz in 1944/early 45. Mostly Staff/Command vehicles and not line models.
for the L24's other service.
PzKw III ausf N served until the end of the war, and wer employed post war by Norway and Holland(in Holland for mine-clearing), The Sdkfz. 250/8 and 251/9 also saw action until May 45.
The HC round gave the L24, a punch that could deal with alot of medium armor at the time..plus it was still good for chucking HE
for the L24's other service.
PzKw III ausf N served until the end of the war, and wer employed post war by Norway and Holland(in Holland for mine-clearing), The Sdkfz. 250/8 and 251/9 also saw action until May 45.
The HC round gave the L24, a punch that could deal with alot of medium armor at the time..plus it was still good for chucking HE