FOV ships

ltcbj · Post by **ltcbj** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 6:33 am

I know that 1/1200 IS a popular scale for wargaming.

At 1/1000 scale the Bismarck would be 9.876" long (nine and seven eighths) and 1.42 inches wide.

I suspect that FoV wants to carve their own unique niche and create a scale that only they produce in. I suspect they were too crafty by half.

I would haver preferred 1/700 or the 1200....

dragon53 · Post by **dragon53** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 8:00 am

Badcat's FOV 1/1000 BISMARCK:

http://www.badcataviation.com/biba1foofva8.html

Rowsdower · Post by **Rowsdower** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 8:19 am

Looks pretty cool except it seems that FOV's famous rubbery plastic has struck again resulting in some pieces being bent out of shape.

I wish they would use a harder, stronger plastic for the more delicate pieces in figures and models.

lightning2000 · Post by **lightning2000** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:35 am

Hi All,
The Bismarck clocked in at around 10 inches in length...

Lightning2000
www.themotorpool.net

AlloySkull · Post by **AlloySkull** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:20 am

Agreed. All those tiny details, especially on their smaller lines, should be cast in a harder plastic. That gummy stuff just doesn't cut it. It looks good, but I believe a harder plastic would have brought the details out much better. I'm glad it's a full hull, I always liked ships. I only tried building one once though, the Titanic, when I was in elementary school and suprisingly it turned out well, except I put it together before I painted it, as I did a lot when I was a kid.

But the really question is, can it float?

Most likely it would sink faster than the real thing.

I just think they could have really brought it to life using harder plastic or a larger scale.

But hey, it's still pretty sweet and I might just pick one up.

GooglyDoogly · Post by **GooglyDoogly** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:22 pm

AlloySkull wrote:Agreed. All those tiny details, especially on their smaller lines, should be cast in a harder plastic. That gummy stuff just doesn't cut it. It looks good, but I believe a harder plastic would have brought the details out much better. I'm glad it's a full hull, I always liked ships. I only tried building one once though, the Titanic, when I was in elementary school and suprisingly it turned out well, except I put it together before I painted it, as I did a lot when I was a kid.

But the really question is, can it float? Most likely it would sink faster than the real thing.

I just think they could have really brought it to life using harder plastic or a larger scale. But hey, it's still pretty sweet and I might just pick one up.

But then we'd be crying over broken gun barrels, masts, etc.

It's extremely easy to snap off those things, even when you're super-careful.

kuvaszsleepybear · Post by **kuvaszsleepybear** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 2:31 pm

aferguson wrote:i remember when i was a kid i had some small plastic ships that had the removable hull option so you could have waterline or full hull. They were only about 4 or 5 inches long or so but were pretty nice, as best i can remember. May have been by Bachman or somebody like that.

You might be thinking about the Pyro "Tabletop Navy" ships,you can find them on ebay every once in awhile.

kuvaszsleepybear · Post by **kuvaszsleepybear** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 2:35 pm

kuvaszsleepybear wrote:
aferguson wrote:i remember when i was a kid i had some small plastic ships that had the removable hull option so you could have waterline or full hull. They were only about 4 or 5 inches long or so but were pretty nice, as best i can remember. May have been by Bachman or somebody like that.
You might be thinking about the Pyro "Tabletop Navy" ships,you can find them on ebay every once in awhile.

:!:PS,also there were those Honk Kong copies of the Triang ships that if you were careful you could trim of the hulls,they show up on ebay but I don't find them that often as most of them didn't survive the BB gun wars in the local creeks.

AlloySkull · Post by **AlloySkull** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 8:23 pm

True, but super glue solves everything for me. Pitot tubes, gun barrels, etc... work great with super glue after being broken even several times. I'm a frickin' pro at it.

ltcbj · Post by **ltcbj** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:57 am

I always had the broken gun barrel problem with 1/285 micro-armor. My solution was to hexx with it and clipped the barrels. And those could be bent back into shape, sort of.

Sky Ray · Post by **Sky Ray** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 1:35 pm

Got the Action Series Bismarck today at Target. I'll have to open it and inspect further, but looking over it a bit mines isn't too bad, only one cannon is drooping slightly and a small portion of the bridge rails/hanger.

olifant · Post by **olifant** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 4:14 pm

Pics SkyRay?

csiemers · Post by **csiemers** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:08 pm

Sky Ray wrote:Got the Action Series Bismarck today at Target. I'll have to open it and inspect further, but looking over it a bit mines isn't too bad, only one cannon is drooping slightly and a small portion of the bridge rails/hanger.

I saw one today at Target too. Unfortunately one of the masts was bent so I didn't pick it up. I though it looked pretty well. It wouldn't be a center piece to a collection, but a decent side piece.

Sky Ray · Post by **Sky Ray** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:26 pm

A quick overview: Took me a while to pull out, but after stroking the Bismarck carefully for a while, most of the ship is made of hard/sturdy plastic. The four main guns rotate and cannon barrels elevate up and down.

The only flaws I can see with my copy is that certain points are bented; one of the main gun cannon barrel in the rear and the secondary gun barrels on the third starboard pics, and the two rails on the side of the bridges on the second starboard pics. Not as bad as the one on Bad Cat Toys through.

Box front:
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/6109/1007671lc0.jpg

Out of box front:
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6801/1007681sf9.jpg

Port:
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/1959/1007708anr1.jpg
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/2926/1007720of1.jpg

Starboard:
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/7995/1007706atz9.jpg
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/2292/1007717gx3.jpg
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/3014/1007719bc8.jpg

Plate base:
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/3218/1007711fh5.jpg

Above:
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/2599/1007712lg0.jpg

A pair of Arado Ar 196s on catapult:
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/6677/1007714dd5.jpg

Comparisions with Gearbox Toys' 1:700 scale warships; (from left to right) Interprid, Hornet, Missouri, Indianapolis, and Bismarck:
http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/4624/1007696um3.jpg
http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/6808/1007700ayg9.jpg
http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/8334/1007701qp6.jpg

In the Baltic, hunting for some limeys:
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/3487/1007685oj5.jpg
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/8657/1007686ul9.jpg
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/6485/1007689axb8.jpg
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/8475/1007693sb0.jpg
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/7408/1007694dg6.jpg

ltcbj · Post by **ltcbj** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 7:02 am

Sky Ray: GREAT photos. Thanks

However. What is the background in the box?? You'd (well, I'd) think that FoV would have at least used a picture of an Ocean and Sky as background. Not a devastated city. Is it meant to imply that the Bismarck (had it not been sunk years earlier) might have sailed up the Rhine and participated in the defense of Berlin? That wopuld have been a sight.

Thank you for all of the pictures.

Post by **aferguson** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:24 am

lol.....not a lot of thought went into the box art design, i don't think.

The ship itself looks ok, i guess. How much was it?

And the all important question: does it float?

ltcbj · Post by **ltcbj** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:48 am

You know it seems like just another of those lapses of attention that FoV seems to have on a regular basis.

Sky Ray · Post by **Sky Ray** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 5:02 pm

aferguson wrote:The ship itself looks ok, i guess. How much was it?

$15.99.

aferguson wrote:And the all important question: does it float?

Refer back to my last post.

ltcbj · Post by **ltcbj** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 5:33 pm

It floats on a cardboard sea?

I thought it was "only a paper moon, sailing over a cardboard sea"?

Post by **aferguson** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:00 pm

does it float?

VMF115 · Post by **VMF115** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:03 pm

aferguson wrote:does it float?

That's what I want to know. I need to build my bathtub fleet to battle giant empty shampoo bottles.

Sky Ray · Post by **Sky Ray** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:06 pm

If I find another Bismarck maybe I'll give it a try.

VMF115 · Post by **VMF115** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:08 pm

Sky Ray wrote:If I find another Bismarck maybe I'll give it a try.

Did you sell it?

Rowsdower · Post by **Rowsdower** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 7:18 pm

VMF115 wrote:That's what I want to know. I need to build my bathtub fleet to battle giant empty shampoo bottles.

I had quite a few of those in my bathtub navy. Their water "cannons" could kick some arse.

VMF115 · Post by **VMF115** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 7:23 pm

Rowsdower wrote:
VMF115 wrote:That's what I want to know. I need to build my bathtub fleet to battle giant empty shampoo bottles.
I had quite a few of those in my bathtub navy. Their water "cannons" could kick some arse.

I sank many battle ships with those water cannons......