Small Scale Military Headquarters

Lets see, for the most part 21st has got the major aircraft in the German spectum:
Fw190 D-9 hopefully we will see a A-8 variant
Me-109---but needs retooling(screwed up on the canopy)
Bf-109 G-6 (NICE)
Stuka
***A Bf110 would be nice but doubtful, but it would certainly sell

US
P-51
P-47
P-38
P-40
Corsair
Avenger
****Need a Hellcat

British
Spitfire
P-40 with N.A frica markings, but I dont count that as a British made aircraft but its still nice.
**Need a MOSQUITO ---- BADLY--ARE YOU LISTENING 21st??
** A BoB Hurricane would be really nice to compliment the BoB Spitfire
** Typhoon would be really cool

Japan
Were are suppose to be getting a Zero and when you think of japanese aircraft that certainly is the first one that comes to mind.

Russian
WHO CARES


As for JETS---well thats a seperate issue, but I think the 104, Sabre and Mig-15 is going to just about do it, everything else is too large, but who knows. BBi hit us with a F-18 and F-16, but as for aircraft like the F-4,F-15,F-14 those would be huge!!!!!!!!!

I gues all in all what I am really trying to say, is that I want a MOSQUITO BADLY!!!!! And a BoB Hurricane to boot................

I heard from a reliable source that 21st will be doing an F-4, the release is some what sketchy, fall of 2007 or spring of 2008 , they are also planning on doing the century fighter series.

I also would not be surprised to see more Soviet ground forces and armor.

But my best guess is wait and see.

Bbi already has the Zero out for some time now.


I would love to see them made
MOSQUITO
Hurricane
Typhoon
Bf110
P-61 black widow
P-38 *retooled
and a Macchi MC.202 Folgore

July 2006 after Avengers went to WM:

On a brighter note, the vacuum left by this event rippled quickly throughout the industry. Within hours, we were contacted by the other, 1:18 manufacturing powers and secured exclusive production agreements for three new aircraft that were either backburnered or in initial development. With the 'Cats weight behind the production of the new birds, things are rolling now. We can't disclose the new planes yet but are scheduled to receive these in October, November and January, respectively.

If this holds true we should see a new bird next month and the month after that. Hope that is the case. It has been a while since we got anything new from bbi or AT.

We are all interested in the bigger twin engine fighers/bombers/night fughters. We have been beaten over the head with size problems with the boxes.

I thought I had read a very good idea to solve that problem, namely make these "twins" in 1/32.

What happened to that idea?

I'd love to see:
P-61
B-25
B-26
Bf-110
MOSQUITO
Betty Japanese bomber
He-111

If size is a problem, go 1/32. Even a "groundpounder" like me would go for them.

TTT

Boy, that sure makes things interesting. Assuming one of those is the AT Me-262? Still leaves a few more releases to look forward to.

Now that I think about it though, that note implies that these new items are BCA exclusives and the AT Me-262 is a general release so.. Maybe they are referring to the new F-16 and F-18 that are due out in November?

Though it does say three "new" aircraft...

Me-110 has long been rumoured from 21c and is most likely still planned.

An Fw-190A is very likely some day....by Admiral maybe, that's my guess.

Russian....who cares!?!? I care, and so do lots of others. Russia was a pretty significant factor in WWII.

If 21c did the whole Century series of fighters that would be great, very surprising, but great. Just can't see them doing an F-102 and F-106 and an F-105 would be immense (almost 4 feet long). I'd love it but am skeptical.. Would they do a Voodoo? Again, i'd love it but am skeptical.

An F-4 is a no brainer. I'm quite surprised it's taken this long.

I'm hunching we'll have a B-25 some day. Probably from 21c. Just a gut feeling.

It's stuff like Ju-88's, He-111's, Do-17/217's i'm very uncertain about. Could be but could easily not be too..

Well we can hope we will see some twin engine fighter/bombers, if they do the mosquito, and I am having very high hopes they do, I have thought from time to time, how they will allow the figures to be placed and removed from the cockpit. As you know, the crew got into the aircraft from a hatch below the cokpit. So in my estimation, the best way would be for the canopy to have a removable type design. I never have cared for the figures anyway, but since they include them with all the aircraft they make, I guess that the canopy issue will have to be addressed. Personally I would rather exclude the figures in place for detail on the aircraft, this would be a prime example of that.
Same issue with the bombers if we ever see any of them.

I hope we see more jets in the future. I don't think any of the jet subjects like the A-10, F-4, or F-15 are too big to be produced. So what if major retailers won't put them on their shelves. I have a good feeling that internet retailers and specialty shops would pick them up to sell. There is still a market out there for them. I still say look at the F-16. As far as I know, it never hit major brick and mortar shelves and they must have done well. The first production run sold out and another production run is being done. I'm sure bbi produced enough on the first run to recover the cost of production. Can't see why they wouldn't. Just hope that one day soon we will see the A-10, F-4, F-100, and others.....



Go Ugly Early in 1/18 scale!

Still waiting and wishing for a 1/18 A-10 Warthog.

I'm with Aferg 100%. Ruskie ground and air equipment are as important to military history as the AK-47 is to the history of military firearms.

Like them or not they made an important contribution and are of interest to almost anyone involved in our toys.

Don't like the Rissians? Not our problem, sounds personal to me. I say that from a guy who faced the Russians in the Cold War and was trained to fight Russian armor (T-54's and T-72's) with my 106mm Recoiless Rifle mounted on my Jeep. You know the one with armor only as thick as my GI shirt.... I hold no grudges......except maybe, against certain people who just make the best TV's. Hey, I won't drive their cars but their 60" TV is sitting in my living room.......you gotta be selective in your dislikes..

TTT

I never implied that I didnt want to see any Russian items, I just have never been fond of their equipment, with the exception of the AK-47(which I love) it for sure would be the rifle I would want if I were to go into combat tomorrow.
I personally didnt think there was that much interest in russian items here,thats why I really didnt really say much about it. But personally I just dont care for it, but thats just my opinion.It certainly hasnt proven itself in the last several wars with Western equipment (Middle East wars as one example). Its quiet obvious that their equipment is built with quanity in mind and not quality. I guess if they had more regard for human life, the technology would also change. Yeah, I know "Quanity has a quality of its own".
But speaking of aircraft, if the F-4 is slated for sometime in the next year or so, then you just have to have a Mig-21 to compliment it. Just as you have the Sabre, you have to have a Mig-15.
As for tanks, WW2--a T-34 is a must!!!!!! After all, it has gone down in history as the best tank ever made, according to the Military Channel's-- Top Ten tanks.

"Its quiet obvious that their equipment is built with quanity in mind and not quality. I guess if they had more regard for human life, the technology would also change."

cough, cough, Sherman, cough....

No, the Sherman was just a simple stupid mistake, yes even Americans make mistakes, 450,000 Americans dead --vs-- 20,000,000 ++++ Russians dead in WW2 go figure, cough cough.......

Are you forgeting about the best tank of the war? The T-34/85?!

And that the Yak-9 is even to the P-51 Mustang in every level, and is more manuverable?

The IL-2 was a flying tank, it was very sucessful.

The I-16, which set the speed record for it's time

And the BT-7, the fastest thing on tracks back then, and maybe still is (Im not sure)

PPSH-41 had a rate of fire of 900RPM, you have an MG in your hands there...

Ill admit, Russian tactics were a bit wrong, sending men without rifles in to battle and such, but they won the war because of that.

A 1:18 B-52 would be nice. It would make a nice patio umbrella.

tpa05 wrote:A 1:18 B-52 would be nice. It would make a nice patio umbrella.

now that would be cool!!! but i doubt we will see it. I would like to see more jets and would really like to see a harrier!

well, the Russians faced the full force of 75% or greater of the German armed forces for 4 full years of all out war, whereas the US faced significantly less than 25% of it for a little over two (the other western allies bearing some of the brunt as well)....so naturally the soviet casualties were a lot higher. A big chunk of the 22 million were civilian deaths btw. The Sherman was employed with exactly the same philosophy that the Soviet leaders used.......sending in huge numbers to overwhelm the enemy. An effective tactic (clearly) but a little hard on the crews..

The problem was not the Russian equipment, it was the Russian political leadership which sent under equipped, poorly lead troops into battle (in the first years of the war at least).

Most russian equipment was well designed....the soviets had some of the best tanks and artillery pieces of the war...and i'm not just talking about the T-34. The IS and ISU series was outstanding as well. Their aircraft were also quite good, with the Sturmovik ground attack plane being the second most produced combat aircraft of all time (all versions of the Me-109 being number one).

The Yak 3/9 and Lavochkin 5/7 series of fighters were on a par with any piston engined german aircraft and were probably only bested by the Mustang in the west.

Anyway, the point is that historically, Russia played a gigantic role in WWII and needs to be addressed at some point by the toy makers.

Oh, I 110% agree that the T-34 was the best tank ever made, no question about that at all. But in any case we all have our differences and preferances.
But back to aircraft, I forgot to mention, that a later variant Spitfire like a Mk.V or IX with invasion stripes would just be too COOL-----I am glad they gave us the BoB Mk.I/II, in fact thats exactly what I was hoping for before they released it.
Nothing like a later variant Spitfire with Black and White Invasion Stripes----VERY SEXY!!!!!

What about a Mosquito with the same.....

tko211

would say our chances of seeing an A-4 are better than an intruder!

I remember those rumors and I thought it was for 1:6 which would have been just crazy! I can confirm without a doubt that 1:6 A-4 is not in the works at all.

You guys make some excellent points however for a 1:18 version. I think I have see this plane on the "list" of suspects. However at this time I know of no plans to make one yet.

This is the list I know about.

Avenger- Should show up any day now.

MiG-15 - ETA not certain but look for a solid 2006 date. (this project is already in production) expect to see some more news on this airplane.

F-86 - Same as the MiG as they will ship very very close to one another if not together!

Me-262 - this one is going to be a "run away" hit model. I feel pretty sure of it. I know some of the details / and features surrounding it and I think when it is ready to show it's going to really impress everyone. They way 21st is building these newer planes and even these new half tracks are pretty darn cool!

The 07 stuff is pretty much "black" projects and 21st isn't sharing that intel yet. I will keep diggin though. It's what I do!
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21st is making the Me-262. It is actully in production as we speak. All the details and list of features remain a guarded secret for now. I am also not sure of the ETA. I just know that production started in 05.

I would expect to see the Avenger, F-86 & MiG-15 next from 21st.

We should be seeing pics soon of the me-262, I hope.

and any new on the A-4?

ChiTAG 2006


Dates and Times

Nov. 17, 2006 (Friday), 4 p.m. to 10 p.m.
Nov. 18, 2006 (Saturday), 10 a.m. to 7 p.m.
Nov. 19, 2006 (Sunday), 10 a.m. to 6 p.m.

The next few years should be interesting to see the balance of "old" models vs. new stuff. I would bet in two years, an "new" P51, P40, or Spitfire would still outsell some of the other untouched birds we haven't seen. I hope this doesn't deter the makers from doing new items, but I'm being pessimistic tonight.

And if we do see a matching Ruskie jet if someone did an F-4, I'd rather see a MiG-17. Most of the theaters where these two planes saw combat together (SE Asia, middle East, Africa), pilots generally felt the MiG17 was a better plane. Add to it the MiG15 would be a good starting point. Granted, I won't be sad if someone does a MIG21

I am quite sure we will see pictures of the Me-262 soon. Now that the MiG-15 and F-86 are hitting, the 262 will become the next subject to discuss as far as 1:18 scale airplanes. Also in late fall early winter we should start to get the run down on 2007 products. Cool stuff is coming. I am sure there will be some smiles!