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How about a 21C 1/18 "Duster"

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 8:11 pm
by Threetoughtrucks
One of my favorite vehicles of all time has been the "Duster". Either the M-19 of WW2 fame or the M-42 of the poist war and VN era. Both were made to use the twin 40mm Borfors guns.

The M-19 was made on a M-24 Chafee tank chasis. The gun tub was to the rear of the vehicle and the engine in the middle.

The M-42 was made on a M-41 Walker Bulldog tank chasis. The gun tub was moved to the center to make the guns more stable.
The M-42: (pic courtesy of board member Rylau.)
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Please note that if either vehicle was made, either the M-24 Chaffe could be made in 1/18 along with the M-19, using the same chasis. If the M-42 was made. the already produced M-41 could be dusted off and used for the M-42 chasis. Maybe even a new paint job on the M-41, a really great 1/18 model.

How about it 21C, or some other "up and comming" 1/18 manufacturer?

TTT

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 8:58 pm
by Moth
Should be easy for 21st Century Toys, since they already have the M41.
I like the tank overall, looks very scary with those twin cannons, and the 3 blade flash hinder. There is one standing in Eisenhower park in Long Island.

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 9:02 pm
by Morian Miner
I really liked the M41s, so a Duster would be a nice display companion. Also gives a quick way of getting some new post WWII armor out.

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 9:20 pm
by momaw nadon
Interesting AA tank. What did they use them for in Vietnam? Did the NVA had any aircraft to speak of? I went searching on the web for a picture of the M19, which I think looks cooler than the M42. Might be the gun placement that is towards the back look. Maybe I'll get it a go once everything in going good.
momaw nadon

1:18 Duster ?

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:16 am
by MG-42
I like the idea for either models 3-T. If 21st., ever gets around to it,.. we'll most likely see an M-41 variant (M-42) first,.. more so than an M-19 (M-24) variant. 8) ... :wink: ..... Yeah I know ,... but HEY ! .. :shock: ..."WE CAN STILL DREAM" !!! ... If we want to. :lol:

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 5:45 am
by grunt1
Yes, we need something to shoot all these darn 1:18 planes down. They are straffing and bombing my armor columns relentlessly and a BAR just doesn't cut it. :-)

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 6:20 am
by Threetoughtrucks
Momaw:

In VN, the Duster was used like the quad .50 in WW2, as a "meat chopper".

It chops up alot of real estate.

I've mentioned it before, but one day in VN, we had a visitor, somebody like a Cardinal somebody or other or Billy Graham...smebody like that. I honestly don't remember who it was, but when you are in VN, working 12 hours a day, 7 days a week you take any break you can get so we filled the hillside where a stage had been set up for USO shows, and we listened and caught a few Zs, anyway, I was interested in the two M-42's. They had one at each end of the stage. I didn't think much of it, just figured the M-42's were protection from the VC AND then I realized the 40mm barrels were not pointed at the jungle, they were pointed at us.. :shock: Veddy scarweee.......the way they thought of us. I will say we were all armed to the teeth, so the possibility of a crazie being among us was worth thinking about.....

I bring up the M-19 because I'd like to see a M-24 as a companion piece.

Sure, I'd like to see an M-42 in 1/18 to go along with our M-48's and M-113's and Mutts and throw in a few 5 ton or 2 1/2 ton gun trucks (with companion straight cargo trucks) - HINT, HINT :roll: and we have some serious VN toys for playing.

TTT

"Wirbelwind" too !

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:47 am
by MG-42
---------> On a side note : They (21st.) could just as easily do a "Wirbelwind" on Panzer MkIV chassis. While we're on the subject of AA and other protection. :shock: ..... Would really like to see this variant too. 8) ..... Seems almost predictable ,... for us WWII dudes as well. :wink:

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:53 am
by aferguson
agreed.....that's the most likey variant they will make for the PIV...if they make any variants at all.

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:55 pm
by momaw nadon
TTT,
I guess that would make a great anti-riot deterrent :lol:.
momaw nadon

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 5:15 pm
by Threetoughtrucks
I'll take a "Wirbelwind" in 1/18 any day. :wink:

TTT

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 6:00 pm
by immeww2
You can add me to the "want" list too. :D :D

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 7:58 pm
by Tinman
I'd love an M42. A while back I had considered converting one of my M41s into an M42, but I knew I did not have the skills so I left it alone (a man has to know his limitations!).

More VN items will always be welcomed by me.