POST ALL NEW 109E FINDS AND DISCUSSION HERE

Rogue · Post by **Rogue** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 9:09 am

Prebuy at BCA.
Shipping 12-16-04
Just in time for Xmas

Merry Chrismas baby, heres your Red Tulip

Post by **aferguson** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 9:10 am

should be sightings soon at WM..

boyx30 · Post by **boyx30** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:35 am

I'll be on RECON today......stay tuned!

tmanthegreat · Post by **tmanthegreat** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 12:51 pm

I'm a little undecided on this plane, given that its a remake of the older 109 and I swore I would only purchase one type of each XD plane. Still, this was one of the main German fighters for most of the war and the paintjob on the Herman Graf version looks great! Besides, isn't it supposed to be the most detailed XD plane yet? I think I'll wait to see it in person at my local Hobbytown USA store, since I'm sure they will get it not too long after BCA.

This 1:18 scale aircraft addiction has to stop!!

Post by **aferguson** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 2:21 pm

Tman: don't be undecided. While it is a later version of the earlier Me-109E it is virtually a new aircraft. I'm not talking just about the toy, i'm talking about in history.

The redesign of the 109 which began with the 'F' series resulted in a virtually new aircraft, both in appearance and in performance. It was also a mainstay fighter for the Luftwaffe from 1941 onwards. It featured a completely redesigned nose, new engine, modified tail, new canopy, strengthened rear fuselage, redesigned round tip wings and a huge increase in armament, among other things. It is probably the most significant German fighter of WWII.

If you only have room for one 109 than the 'G' is the one to have but in terms of historical importance you should really have an 'E' and a 'G' in your collection.

Not to mention that it will most likely be a vastly superior model/toy to the earlier 'E' which is a first generation XD item, afterall.

mburduck · Post by **mburduck** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 2:32 pm

Yes, I agree with the Cap. The "G" would be the way to go if you could only have one 109.

This one looks good, so I might.....

Mike

PS I'll keep checking at the local WMs to see if any show up!

tmanthegreat · Post by **tmanthegreat** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 4:28 pm

You guys aren't good for breaking this toy addiction! Oh well, I could be addicted to far worse and far more costly things! Thanks for the encouragement, but I still want to see it in person before I buy it, which is where Hobbytown comes in handy! 10 to 1, I'll probably walk out with one!

boyx30 · Post by **boyx30** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 4:33 pm

Lets hope a desert version makes it's appearance fairly soon. BTW anyone here heard of the pilot Franz Stigler?

Website · Post by **Teamski** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 5:05 pm

Yeah, I was going to say YOU CRAZY BOY?? The G model should be the best 21st plane out so far. The leading edge slats even work! How can you go wrong??

-Ski

Jagdflieger · Post by **Jagdflieger** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 6:45 pm

Rogue wrote:Prebuy at BCA.
Shipping 12-16-04
Just in time for Xmas

Merry Chrismas baby, heres your Red Tulip

You and me both!

Jagdflieger · Post by **Jagdflieger** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 6:46 pm

tmanthegreat wrote:I'm a little undecided on this plane, given that its a remake of the older 109 and I swore I would only purchase one type of each XD plane. Still, this was one of the main German fighters for most of the war and the paintjob on the Herman Graf version looks great! Besides, isn't it supposed to be the most detailed XD plane yet? I think I'll wait to see it in person at my local Hobbytown USA store, since I'm sure they will get it not too long after BCA.

This 1:18 scale aircraft addiction has to stop!!

Remake of which one? I haven't seen any G models yet.... only E models...

Jagdflieger · Post by **Jagdflieger** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 6:51 pm

boyx30 wrote:Lets hope a desert version makes it's appearance fairly soon. BTW anyone here heard of the pilot Franz Stigler?

Yes... JG27.... and later JV44.....

I have a print that depicts the story described on this link.

http://www.chivalrytoday.com/Essays/Fri ... -John.html

buzzard · Post by **buzzard** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 10:20 pm

Is Franz Stigler's aircraft amongst the new offerings by 21st? If so, which one? Just checked BCA's site but couldn't find it.

Website · Post by **Teamski** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 9:07 am

The only 2 I'm aware of are Anton Hackl and Herman Graf. Both are in the Profile album.

The 109G should be one hell of a plane!

-Ski

buzzard · Post by **buzzard** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 7:09 pm

I see. Thanx Ski!

Post by **aferguson** » Sat Dec 04, 2004 1:49 pm

In case anyone doesn't realize it the picture on BCA's site is not of a model, like we're used to seeing but is of the actual toy that is coming out. You can tell it's not a model by looking at the oversized tail wheel, which is typical of the xd planes, the undercarriage, the absence of a radio mast and d/f loop behing the cockpit etc.

The fact that it is easy to mistake it for a built up model kit at first glance (which i did) shows just how good these puppies are getting.

Lots of nice, interesting repaint opportunites in the F/G series too...i hope when they do F repaints they leave the cannon blisters off of the cowling, as they were only seen on later 'G' models. It's time that 21c started doing some little and easy structural mods to their repaints to make them more physically correct.

http://store1.yimg.com/I/badcattoys_1823_3020371

Website · Post by **Teamski** » Sat Dec 04, 2004 2:24 pm

Andrew,

Those blisters look mightily easy to pull off! Your wish might very well happen. I think 21st is thinking along those very same lines.....

-Ski

USCGSARdog · Post by **USCGSARdog** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 3:39 pm

109 G6'S ARRIVED EARLY AT BAD CAT, PREORDERS SHIPPING TODAY!

-Rob

tko211 · Post by **tko211** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 3:47 pm

I can't wait this is going to be one of the most detailed planes yet. I also thought that this was a model kit pic, but sure enough it looks to be the real thing. Looks like people are getting an early christmas present!

Jagdflieger · Post by **Jagdflieger** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 5:45 pm

USCGSARdog wrote:109 G6'S ARRIVED EARLY AT BAD CAT, PREORDERS SHIPPING TODAY!

-Rob

Ever see a fat guy doing a jig in his computer room?

Post by **aferguson** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 6:44 pm

nertz i missed the $5 off pre-order. Sigh, i guess i'll go the WM route then and make my own swastikas...

Surprising these showed up at BCA before WM....that's a first.

Jagdflieger · Post by **Jagdflieger** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 7:39 pm

aferguson wrote:nertz i missed the $5 off pre-order. Sigh, i guess i'll go the WM route then and make my own swastikas...

Surprising these showed up at BCA before WM....that's a first.

My Desert Bf 109 hasn't shown up at WM either. So I'm not sure it is a first.

Jagdflieger · Post by **Jagdflieger** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 7:42 pm

buzzard wrote:Is Franz Stigler's aircraft amongst the new offerings by 21st? If so, which one? Just checked BCA's site but couldn't find it.

I haven't seen a Franz Stigler 109 but there is a desert 109 out there.

Jagdflieger · Post by **Jagdflieger** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 7:43 pm

Got my confirmation on shipping....

Hopefully my Bf109G6-R6 will be here by the 10th !

Post by **aferguson** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 8:17 pm

I dont think the desert 109 was ever intended to sell at WM..

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