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P-38 monster
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:38 am
by Jolly Roger
someone should have had warned me about this thing, it makes the F-18 seem small.. i cant even fit this thing on my display structures LOL
this is the biggest Plane (wingspan) i now own, its huge!!!
and also its so great to have a swivel front landing gear!!!!
i love that part

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 4:43 am
by scbvideoboy
I haven't taken mine out of the box, I assume the front end is weighted somehow to sit on the front wheel?
DH
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:13 am
by KAGNEW
the nose is wieghted plus the main landing gear is moved way back from scale to add wieght to nose
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:00 am
by toyktdlgh
It is a fantastic aircraft. I have two on my top shelf. As a matter of fact they were my bench mark for building my shelves. They had to be deep enough for my P-38s
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 12:37 pm
by tmanthegreat
Definitely a huge plane, and it was the largest in 1:18 for years until the F-18 (and soon to be Avenger) took that away. It still currently has the largest wingspan. When mine (the S1 D-day version) is not displayed hanging on the ceiling or sitting on my display table, I have to break it down and store it. Luckily this plane dissassembles nicely into several parts and thust takes up very little space!
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:36 pm
by tko211
UM... The P-38 is REALLY small compared to the mass and wing span of the AVENGER.
Consider yourselves WARNED!!!!
It's gonna be cool.
Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 5:47 am
by toyktdlgh
I built my shelves big. Let’s hope big enough. I just added an aircraft carrier deck to one so it should be plenty deep. Just concerned about the height. As long as shes not much higher than the bbi jets then I’m fine.
Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 7:47 am
by Moth
TKO, can you give us the length and wingspan of the Avenger?
Domestic or metric

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 7:53 am
by Sabrefan
Larger shelves under construction here, all I need is my Avenger!

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 11:56 am
by tmanthegreat
tko211 wrote:UM... The P-38 is REALLY small compared to the mass and wing span of the AVENGER.
Consider yourselves WARNED!!!!
It's gonna be cool.
Yeah the P-38 will be very small compared to the Avenger - most existing 1:18 planes will
I also have a display spot set for my Avenger - the only problem will be what to do with the two "normal" sized 1:18 planes I usually have sitting there...
Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 1:36 pm
by bhallg2k
tko211 wrote:UM... The P-38 is REALLY small compared to the mass and wing span of the AVENGER.
Consider yourselves WARNED!!!!
It's gonna be cool.
The Avenger should only be marginally larger than the P-38 in terms of overall length and wingspan. Though Avenger's "girth" and height will be considerably larger.
According to my calculations, where 1" at 1:18 scale equals 1.5' in reality (someone please correct me if that conversion is incorrect), the Avenger should be 27.3" by 36" by 10.3" tall (taller still with the gear down).
I just measured my P-38 and it measures 26" by 34" by 6.5" (gear down).
Basically I'm saying that if you have enough room for a P-38, you should be able to make enough room for the Avenger...if it ever comes.
Avenger Specs
Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 1:56 pm
by Folkwulfe
I get slightly different measurements, but not enough to really matter.
TBF/TBM-1 Specs
Wingspan....54'2" (36.1" in 1/18th scale)
Length......40'0" (26.6" in 1/18th scale)
Height.......16'5" (10.94" in 1/18th scale)
P-38G Specs
Wingspan....52'0" (34.66" in 1/18th scale)
Length.....37'10" (25.22" in 1/18th scale)
Height....9'10" (6.55" in 1/18th scale)
That puts the Avenger 1.5" wider at the span, slightly less than 1.5" longer, and almost 4.5" taller than the P-38....howz that for size matters!
Avenger size
Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 8:22 pm
by JimBob55
Size matters...ESPECIALLY on an aircraft carrier...
With wings folded, the Avenger was only 19 feet wide; about 12.5" in 1:18 scale. Can the P-38 do that??
JimBob
Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 8:34 pm
by aferguson
dimensionally the avenger and lightning are similar but when you put them side by side you wll see the avenger will look massive in comparison. The lightning is mostly air in the volume of space it occupies, with the twin tail booms, slim wings and pointy nose. The avenger is huge and bulky and occupies alot more of it's dimensional volume. It's gonna be sooo cool.

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 7:28 am
by Teamski
At least you can fold the wings on the avenger and put it on a shelf.
-Ski
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 11:06 am
by tko211
Having been up close to the Avenger in 1:18 and placing a P-38 Pudgy V next to it here was my impression.
They are similar in width and length with the Avenger being slightly larger on both counts. The Meaty cowl, large/tall gear stance and the size of the wings just make the Avenger seem HUGE in comparrision.
As ski pointed out... The folding wings are going to come in handy. It's funny when something like a wing fold stops being a "detail" and bcomes more "functional" from a space saving point of view! You would think we were trying to save space on a carrier!!!!!
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 3:13 pm
by tmanthegreat
tko211 wrote:As ski pointed out... The folding wings are going to come in handy. It's funny when something like a wing fold stops being a "detail" and bcomes more "functional" from a space saving point of view! You would think we were trying to save space on a carrier!!!!!
Thats what I like about the XD Corsairs (and the BBI one, too) is that their wings fold and they store very easily w/o any disassembly
...and if you have a look in my storage cabinet, it does take on the appearance of an aircraft carrier hanger deck, save that not all the planes are naval aircraft.
P-38 Samatha Payton
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 4:26 pm
by Razor17019
No wanting to "hijack" this forum, but I am trying to determine the "worth" of a P-38 Samatha Payton. The only flaw it has is the front landing gear broke off.
If it was you selling- what would you let it go for?
If it was you buying- what would you pay?