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Any F-82 Twin Mustang fans?
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 9:42 pm
by Sabrefan
I am a big fan of the F-82 Twin Mustang. I was looking at my new 21st Century P-51 and thinking how cool an 1/18th scale F-82 twin mustang would be. I would like to see an all black night fighter version.
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 3:28 am
by Teamski
An F-82 would be a doable mod, that's for sure. You thinking about it?
-Ski
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:43 am
by Moth
Never saw or heard of an F-82, is it a Mustang with a contra-rotating prop?
I love the Spitfire/Seafire with the contra-rotating prop, it is beautiful, and the performance gain is immence
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:53 am
by Emil Frand
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:53 am
by flpickupman
Moth, here's an F-82 for ya

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 11:22 am
by Moth
Well, that's certainly different...
Looks cool, but what purpose does it serve?
I doubt that it is acrobatic

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 11:35 am
by tmanthegreat
They actually saw alot of service during the late 1940s and during the Korean war. The F-82 was initially designed as a long-range escort fighter for B-29s, but saw alot of use as a photo-recon aircraft and in the ground attack role. I believe the Confederate Air Force still operates a flyable example. It would certainly be a doable mod, but would involve alot a wing slicing...
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 1:02 pm
by Sabrefan
The F-82 was also developed as a replacement for the P-61 Black Widow. Many versions of the F-82 were night fighters.
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:20 pm
by Lefty
A 1:18 P-61 would be bad-azz!!!!!
An F-82 would be cool as well (esp. if done up in a night fighter paint scheme!)
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 5:44 am
by scbvideoboy
Lefty wrote:A 1:18 P-61 would be bad-azz!!!!!
An F-82 would be cool as well (esp. if done up in a night fighter paint scheme!)
about as likely as a Me-410 or a Gloster Meteor....
DH
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 6:35 am
by flpickupman
I beg to differ. The F-82 is a damn sight more likely than a Meteor. It remains, however, pretty dad-gum unlikely. lol
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 7:24 am
by scbvideoboy
I just threw those planes out there from the top of my head. (I did look up the meteor online to get spelling)
The manufactures have to go with mainstream choices to guarantee sales volumes. As the cost to engineer, tool, produce, package, and distribute in 1/18 is, I'm sure a lot more than the 1/48 scale kits producers.
And actually the price is about equal or less that a 1/48 kit. My dad bought a trumpeter 1/32 Avenger kit over $100. I had bought a trumpeter
1/16 scale T-34/85 for $150. Super detailed, however.
I would like to see variety however in upcoming releases. With Me 262, F-86's, Mig-15's, Avengers, on the buy list already.
These are what the compaines have been working on for the past year or so, while the re-issues and repaints are generating income to fund the new super secret works.
I currently have:
3 Zeros (BBi, Green and PH)
2 Corsairs (1 BBi, 1 21C)
2 P-40B's
3 Me 109's G-6
2 Me 109 E's ( 1 S1)
2 Spitfires
3 P-47's
2 P-51 (1 BBi, 1 21C)
2 F-104's
2 FW 190D's
1 F-86E (AT)
1 Cobra
1 Huey
1 F-18 (BBi)
1 P-38L
1 Stuka
Preorder: 4 Avengers, at least one going to dad, who got a USAF F-104 for Christmas.
P-40 B Flying Tigers
And as soon as pre order buttons are up the F-86, Mig 15 and Me 262
So bring on some different planes! And figures and Armor! All in 1/18 of course.
DH
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 8:23 am
by KAGNEW
an F-82 would be a stretch

the fuse is 2 feet longer
the plane was based on a P-51H with Allison engines so only the canopys are the same as what they have now

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 8:30 am
by Moth
Interesting, I just had an idea,
Why didnt they just use P-38's?
Is this thing better?
If it is, Isnt it cheaper to upgrade/reconstruct the P-38?
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 8:53 am
by KAGNEW
the F-82 was faster, had longer range(one flew from Hawaii to New York nonstop) it had 2 pilots because it could stay in air for 8 plus hours.
a friend (who just died ) flew one in Korea and i have all his books and pix now.
yes it's one of my favorite planes

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 10:13 am
by Moth
Sorry to hear about your friend

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 10:49 am
by KAGNEW
i was wrong
the F-82 fuselage was 5ft 10in longer then a P-51Ds
the F-51H fuselage was 14in longer then a P-51Ds
so it would be a real stretch to convert
Betty Joe is the F-82B that made longest Hawaii/ New York flight and is on display at WP Air Force base

Lightning Upgrade
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 2:57 pm
by Folkwulfe
Hey Moth...looks like Lockheed beat you to the suggestion of upgrading the P-38 for long range escort. Check this out
http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?met ... 0Lightning on the "Chain Lightning".
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 4:06 pm
by Moth
Damn, that thing is HIDEOUS!
Thanks for the information though
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 6:17 pm
by KAGNEW
the Chain Lighting was almost as big as a P-61 Black Widow and not near as good. plus all engines tried in it were duds.
the final Allison engine were 2 V12s on a common crankshaft that was almost 18 feet long
they also tried it on the XB-39 and they always got hot and caught fire.
Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 7:12 am
by aferguson
all that being said about the differences between the P-51 and F-82, i wonder who will be the first to graft two 1/18 P-51's together, paint 'em black and put a big radar pod under the middle. It would look pretty sharp, regardless of accuracy and i would hand out a gold star to whomever does it.
It actually produces a much prettier plane than the real F-82:
http://i11.ebayimg.com/01/i/07/07/fb/27_1_b.JPG
http://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/imagese ... a/af82.jpg
Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 7:49 am
by KAGNEW
i would try it but to much on plate right now
