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New Millenium RC PzIV-H
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 4:08 pm
by ltcbj
Is this the same company as 21st Century. The New Mill 1/18 RC tank has number 634, the pictures on the box have #122 and the picture I've seen on this forum have 122 as well. No where on the box is "Ultimate Soldier" or 21st Century Toys mentioned. The manufacturer is identified as New Millenium and it is called "Classic Armor", just like the little 144 scale tanks. The packaging is a dead ringer for 21st Century and it is advertised (at least on eBay) as 21st C- Ultimate Soldier.
So what is the relationship here? Where does 21st C fit in to New Mill., or visa versa? I have a need to know.
Thanks
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 4:17 pm
by immeww2
"New Millenium Toys" = 21st Century. They are the same company with different names.
I thought so
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 5:07 pm
by ltcbj
but it makes no sense at all.
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 5:17 pm
by tankduel
We call it 'same bloke, different haircut'

Re: I thought so
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:55 pm
by digger
immeww2 wrote:"New Millenium Toys" = 21st Century. They are the same company with different names.
ltcbj wrote:but it makes no sense at all.
Not quite same company but does make sense. You'll notice you only see NMT in WM; but the products clearly derive from 21st. There is likely some licensing there of 21st molds, etc....but I doubt you will see NM anywhere but WM.
Think about other "generic" brands - or remember the motorworks boxes, which were just WM brand, 21st product. And just like other "generic" brands, you often lose packaging (remember when the plastic bases were replaced?) and occassionally quality (chipped paint on your diecast Winter Tiger?) suffers. In turn, good not to tarnish the 21st brand, and allows WM more control over their cost and inventory. You will notice this Xmas EVERYTHING was RC, next thing you know WM has RC tanks out the....

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:46 pm
by tmanthegreat
I agree with NMT being a company contracted by 21c for use through Wal Mart, however, my S1 Panzer IV, which I purchased at Hobbytown at the beginning of 2005 (when those tanks were first released to the small retailers) was made by NMT, per the company logo on the bottom. Its not entirely a Wal Mart exclusive company.
you get the idea
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:56 pm
by digger
tmanthegreat wrote:I agree with NMT being a company contracted by 21c for use through Wal Mart, however, my S1 Panzer IV, which I purchased at Hobbytown at the beginning of 2005 (when those tanks were first released to the small retailers) was made by NMT, per the company logo on the bottom. Its not entirely a Wal Mart exclusive company.
Well, those S1 Panzers were shoddy
