Battleground Toys 1:18 - Flak 38 & Sd.Ah 51 - New photos

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Battleground Toys 1:18 - Flak 38 & Sd.Ah 51 - New photos

Post by grunt1 » Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:15 pm

Here by popular request is the gun made most famous in Saving Private Ryan, the Flak 38 with Sonderanhanger 51 trailer.

Flak 38
- 3 Parts (Gun, body, platform)
- 100% glueless (snap) assembly
- Gun elevates
- Gun platform rotates 360 degrees
- Shield can be removed for Saving Private Ryan look

Sonderanhanger 51 trailer
- 3 Parts (2x wheels, trailer)
- 100% glueless (snap) assembly
- Trailer wheels roll
- Flak 38 gun platform snaps onto and off of trailer as desired

Ammunition kit included
- 5 Magazines
- 2 Ammo boxes
- 20 individual rounds
- 2 Magazines fit into each ammo box
- Magazines fit into Flak 38 gun breech
- Flak storage bracket holds up to 3 magazines

I'm going to paint her up over the next several days and will post finished shots when done.

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Assembly instructions - Flak 38
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Push gun brackets out slightly and "pop" round gun rails into corresponding round brackets on gun mount.

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Gun will now elevate

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Place mounted gun and chassis into gun platform by inserting large disk on the bottom into the large hole in the gun platform. Gun chassis will now rotate 360 degrees on platform.

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Re: Battleground Toys 1:18 - Flak 38 & Sonderanhanger 51 Tra

Post by grunt1 » Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:16 pm

Ammunition kit (included)

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Magazines (3) fit into magazine storage bracket on gun
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Magazines fit into gun breech
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Ready for some action!
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2 Magazines fit into each ammunition box
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Re: Battleground Toys 1:18 - Flak 38 & Sonderanhanger 51 Tra

Post by pickelhaube » Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:22 pm

Yes yes yes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kirk Douglas : Mine hit the ground first
John Wayne : Mine was taller



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Re: Battleground Toys 1:18 - Flak 38 & Sonderanhanger 51 Tra

Post by grunt1 » Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:26 pm

Trailer assembly instructions:

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Re: Battleground Toys 1:18 - Flak 38 & Sonderanhanger 51 Tra

Post by aferguson » Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:40 pm

hey just like in Saving Private Ryan. That is cool!
i never met an airplane i didn't like...

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Post by Jnewboy » Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:21 pm

8) 8) 8)

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Post by paulpratt » Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:22 pm

Hey Grunt1,
is there any chance you could a purchase of just the weapons in these types of kits for customs? I would love to just get the flak 38 gun and the nebelwerfer launcher, not the trailers and mounts, etc for customs. Is something like that feasible?
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Post by Jnewboy » Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:58 pm

paulpratt wrote:Hey Grunt1,
is there any chance you could a purchase of just the weapons in these types of kits for customs? I would love to just get the flak 38 gun and the nebelwerfer launcher, not the trailers and mounts, etc for customs. Is something like that feasible?
I had a similar question about the Pak 36 and mounting it on a sdkfz 251

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Re: Battleground Toys 1:18 - Flak 38 & Sonderanhanger 51 Tra

Post by Vonberne » Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:51 am

Amazing. Now if I can just find a German flatbed truck to mount the gun on. The Indy Jones truck might work.
Hmmmmnnn?
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Post by aferguson » Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:08 am

you know, i thought of doing that but all the trucks used as mounts seem to have been single axle not double axle like the Indy truck
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Re: Battleground Toys 1:18 - Flak 38 & Sonderanhanger 51 Tra

Post by pickelhaube » Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:13 am

This will mount on the Sdkfz 251 and the Panzer IV :wink:
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Re: Battleground Toys 1:18 - Flak 38 & Sonderanhanger 51 Tra

Post by aferguson » Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:22 am

panzer iv?
i never met an airplane i didn't like...

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Post by Jnewboy » Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:36 am

aferguson wrote:you know, i thought of doing that but all the trucks used as mounts seem to have been single axle not double axle like the Indy truck
It was mounted into the Krupp Protze
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Grunt can you make a Horch??? :D
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Post by Jnewboy » Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:37 am

A great picture!
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Re: Battleground Toys 1:18 - Flak 38 & Sonderanhanger 51 Tra

Post by Vonberne » Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:40 am

Flak panzer IV Mobelwagen. Pz IV chassis with four slab armoured sides that folded down, with the gun mounted in the centre, if memory serves me correct. Got to check if the gun is the same, though. The four- barrel flak gun was also used. And they even had an 88mm gun in a similar configuration. As for the Indy truck, I might try that as a WHAT IF. Doubt if I can find a more proper truck in this scale. And for the 251, it would need a modified rear end, but I am sure PH can fashion one with enough references. A future project, maybe?
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Post by Jnewboy » Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:54 am

I think all Mk IV flak conversions used the single 37mm or the quad 20mm but yes they did make a few using the 88mm 8)

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Post by Jnewboy » Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:07 am

Here is the one in saving private ryan,
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http://www.sproe.com/f/flak38.html

Notice the armor plate is gone

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Re: Battleground Toys 1:18 - Flak 38 & Sonderanhanger 51 Tra

Post by aferguson » Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:34 am

note the one in SPR has no shield...which looks cool.

the Panzer iv never carried just a single 20mm, to my knowledge. The Mobelwagen prototype mounted a flakvierling, but was never put into production that way. The standard mobelwagen mounted the much larger 37mm aa gun (another good project for somebody :wink: ).
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Re: Battleground Toys 1:18 - Flak 38 & Sd.Ah 51 - Painted

Post by grunt1 » Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:07 pm

This model came out so well I couldn't resist putting it together and painting it... As a bonus, 21st Century figures fit perfectly!

I just realized the seatback is missing. It does come with the model so I must have lost it.

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Post by Vonberne » Wed Aug 08, 2012 2:00 am

You're right Aferg and JNewboy. Grunt1, it looks really neat all painted up.
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Post by 1958Zelda » Wed Aug 08, 2012 1:58 pm

Grunt1 great job 8)

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Post by normandy » Wed Aug 08, 2012 2:38 pm

Grunt, another outstanding piece! Looks Great!!!

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Post by grunt1 » Wed Aug 08, 2012 3:37 pm

Thanks guys I need to put the wire basket on. Any thoughts on whether the gun and/or barrel should be metallic colored versus camouflaged? The restored ones are almost always a blued gunmetal and it's hard to tell from the B&W photos if that was the norm or always the case.

Here is what appears to be an original with the barrel painted, but the muzzle clean but weathered metal.

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Re: Battleground Toys 1:18 - Flak 38 & Sd.Ah 51 Trailer -Pai

Post by grunt1 » Wed Aug 08, 2012 4:43 pm

Oh and sorry Paul, I missed your post. It depends on what you want. I plan on splitting the trailer from the Flak to keep the price down for those that just need the gun. That will be the standard offering in the future.

As for splitting the platform from the gun as a one off, I'll see what I can do.

I've got to balance the custom requests (there are several others) with time spent on new models, finishing up ones that are half-complete like the Schwimmer, Puma, LeiG and tweaking existing ones like the no-Panzerfaust scout bike, re-scaling the Goliaths, etc..

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