New Models Suggestion

eddie372 · Post by **eddie372** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 1:34 am

Ok, here are my suggestions for upcoming models from BBi or C21 or whomever wishes to produce them, as long as they do a great job and they're 1:18 scale first.

For comparison purposes, the P-38 has a wingspan of 52 feet (52'), which translates to approx. 35 inches (35") in our models. I will list the airplanes wingspan in feet.

Germany:Henschel Hs.129 B-2/ Ground attack/ 47'
Bf-110C/ Fighter/53'
Dornier Do-17Z/ bomber/ 59'

Italy:
Fiat G-55/ Fighter/ 39'
Breda Ba-65/ fighter/bomber/ 40'
Macchi MC200/fighter/35'
Reggiane Re-2002/ attack/36'

Finland:VL Myrsky II/ fighter/ 36'

USA:Douglas SBD-5/ bomber/ 42'
Vultee A-35/ Dive bomber/ 37'
Northrop A-17A/ attack/ 48'
Grumman F6F-5 Hellcat/ fighter/ 43'

Japan:Mitsubichi Ki-51/ attack airplane/ 40'
Nakahima Ki-27b/ Fighter/ 37'
Nakahima Ki-43-II/ fighter/36'
Nakahima B5N2/ torpedo bomber/ Commander Mitsuo Fuchida's personal aircraft/ 51'
Kawasaki Ki-48IIb/ Twin bomber/ 57'
Yokosuka D4Y2/ bomber/ Imperial Navy Air force/ 38'

Poland:
PZL-P-37/ twin/attack/ 59'

Netherlands:Fokker T. VIII-W/ twin float plane/ 59'

France:Arsenal VG-33/ fighter/ 36'
Bloch MB-152/ Fighter/ 35'
Latecore 298/ twin float plane/ bomber/ 51'
Potez 631/ twin night fighter/ 53'

Great Britain:Bristol Beaufighter/ twin fighter/ 58'
Bristol Beaufort Mk.I/ twin torpedo bomber/ 58'
Hawker Hurricane Mk.I/ fighter/ 40'
Hawker tempest Mk.V/ fighter/ bomber/ 41'
Hawker Typhoon Mk.IB/ fighter/ 32'
Fairey Battle Mk.I/ bomber/ 54'
Fairey Swordfish/ biplane/ torpedo bomber/ WWII/ 46'/ gorgeous
De Havilland Mosquito Mk. IV/ bomber/ 54'/ beautiful

USSR:Mikoyan Gurevich Mig-3/ fighter/ 34'
Ilyushin II-2M3/ attack/ 44'
Sukhoi Su-2/ bomber/ 47'
Petzyakov Pe-2/ twin bomber/ 57'
Lavochkin LaGG-3/ fighter/ 32'
Yakovlev Yak-9/ fighter/ 33'

I believe all these airplanes are doable and beautiful, therefore I see no problem with them selling well. In my Complete Book of WW-II Combat Aircraft (Angelucci/Matricardi/ Pinto/ 1988 Ervin/ Rome), there are color plates of all the above mentioned aircraft. Most of them have a really beautiful paint job, so I do see potential for these models to be sold to the general public as well, if only because they're very beautiful and attractive airplanes to look at. As for us, well...need I say more?

Best Regards,
Eddie

Threetoughtrucks · Post by **Threetoughtrucks** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 6:17 am

For all these planes, we have the same response.

Great, and even vehicle guys like me would be interested in some of your list (Typhoon, Mosquito, Bf-110) but only this board will buy those planes.

The question is: Will the general toy buying public recognize these planes and pay some serious money (over $40) for a toy that Junior will probably break in a half hour.

These are toys and not models. If 21C ever gets to the point of producing their "Legends" line and produce these planes, that are recognized by us airplane fanatics, then that is the only way these planes will be produced.

I can say the same for the different models of the Sherman, M-19 or M-42 Duster, Ontos, M-26, bridge laying tanks, tank retrievers, cargo trucks of all kinds and sizes. We would love to see them produced and we feel they would "fly off the shelves", but we really know that's not going to happen.

TTT

immeww2 · Post by **immeww2** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 9:12 am

That's quite a list. Let's hope that at least several of them become a reality.

donnieboy · Post by **donnieboy** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 9:53 pm

Eddie372: That's quite an impressive wish-list you have, and I would love to see many of those birds too. As other board members (and BBI rep Mike Murphy) have discussed, however, market realities dictate few if any of those planes will ever see the light of day in 1:18.
However, don't depair! Many of those planes are or will be made in 1:72 scale. IXO co. is coming out with a bunch of "rare birds", and Corgi is coming out with a Gloster Gladiator and Fairey Swordfish in 1:72. Look at the 1:32-and- Smaller side of this forum, and visit The Model Hangar
(www.modelhangar.com) for more info.

Website · Post by **Teamski** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 3:37 am

I'm sure we will see at least a couple on that list done in the future. Between bbi and 21st, we will see some real surprises in the future. Who here expected the Zero??

-Ski

Quixote511 · Post by **Quixote511** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:13 am

We all expected the Zero--we just didn't count on their reluctance about producing one. Now, it will be interesting to see what is forthcomming.
Aaron

Post by **aferguson** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:32 am

yes it's after the standard bread and butter planes are all produced that it will get interesting...

What will we see.....or will we see anything at all?...

JimBob55 · Post by **JimBob55** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 3:32 pm

I think it is a very good list of candidates for future models by 21C, BBI, or Admiral.

I'll cast my vote for one in particular:

DAUNTLESS, DAUNTLESS, DAUNTLESS!!!

Recommend the SBD-3 version (Coral Sea, Midway, Guadalcanal)

JimBob

kevrut · Post by **kevrut** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:24 am

I would like to see the DUKW and the T-34. We could use some help against all of those Panzers and Tigers we already have. Maybe an IL2 could help.

KAGNEW · Post by **KAGNEW** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:05 pm

i love the tanks and other ground targets
he! he!

digger · Post by **digger** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:36 pm

KAGNEW wrote:i love the tanks and other ground targets
he! he!

My kind of guy.

We have an uphill battle my friend....these AC fanatics have us outnumbered and out-flanked....

I'd say after the Avenger will be the XD 262 and then the F-86 & MiG combo. I just think you don't hear much about what's coming because it doesn't seem to pay to speculate or show us protos. BBI shows and says nothing - plus their website is a joke - and it seems to work fine for them. I'm afraid 21st might take a similar approach and keep things closer to the vest going forward beause that seems to be a better way to win fan support - secrecy.

RobC70 · Post by **RobC70** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:18 pm

FW 190 Anton, need I say more....

The A8 model would be cccoolllliiiiooo!!!!

KAGNEW · Post by **KAGNEW** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:27 pm

Fw 190F would do also
plus a Hurricane Mk11 with 4 20mm cannons
both early tank busters

eddie372 · Post by **eddie372** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:13 pm

So what sells guys? Recognition, beauty, size, or a combination of all?
Speaking of beauty. I was looking at pictures of the Lockheed PV-2 "Harpoon" and oh man! What a beauty of an airplane, especially in blue Navy colors.

For those of you with the "Aircraft of the World" collection, take a look at the card in Group-11, #31 and see what I mean.

This airplane is beautiful, perfectly doable, and a great addition to our Pacific Theater arsenal.

Haven't someone said that..."beauty is in the eye of the beer-holder?

JimBob55 · Post by **JimBob55** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:51 pm

How about 1:18 support personnel and equipment for our aircraft: ground crew, navy deck crew, ordnance dollies, a/c tractors, 'follow me' jeeps, alternate ordnance (depth charges or homing torpedos)...

IMHO would also be attractive to the age-correct kids

to play with in addition to us grown-up 'kids'

JimBob

tko211 · Post by **tko211** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:51 pm

I would like to add a wildcat or hellcat to the mix of WWII fighters.

Modern- I would say A-10 or F-4 Phantom

Birddog · Post by **Birddog** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:10 pm

tko211 wrote:I would like to add a wildcat or hellcat to the mix of WWII fighters.

Modern- I would say A-10 or F-4 Phantom

I strongly second the Hellcat for WWII and the A-10 for Modern!!!!!!

Please Please Please bring us an A-10 Warthog!!!!!!

digger · Post by **digger** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:19 pm

JimBob55 wrote:How about 1:18 support personnel and equipment for our aircraft: ground crew, ordnance dollies...
JimBob

You have to dream bigger - the 21C Legends line is already going to feature much of what you mention.

It should be very cool...

Post by **p51** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:29 pm

I'd love to see an F-4 Phantom now having seen two different ones fly the past two weeks. Also, after seeing them in person in 1:18 scale (via Lockheed Booth) I think the F-117 and F-22 Raptor would look awesome in 1:18. A-10 would be cool as well.

WW2 wise... SBD Dauntless, B-25 Mitchell, Hurricane, Japanese Val.

DocTodd · Post by **DocTodd** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:34 pm

My first choice is an A-10, but don't foget the cool old A-7 Corsair.
Todd

pilotman · Post by **pilotman** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:06 pm

How bout F-15/ Su-27 combination for modern fighter combo,
F-4 phantom/ Mig 17 or 21 for vietnam era,
F-86/ Mig 15 korea and last but certainly not least
a lancaster bomber with hurricane escort for that english flavored WWII

digger · Post by **digger** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:15 pm

F-86/ Mig 15

21st is making that combo already

CW4USARMY · Post by **CW4USARMY** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:03 pm

[21st is making that combo already]

And you'll only have to wait two years for them!

tko211 · Post by **tko211** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:18 pm

I wouldn't bet on it taking 2 years... I have it on pretty good authority that they are moving along quite nicely!

tmanthegreat · Post by **tmanthegreat** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 10:19 am

Ah, good! (Well, bad for my wallet.) My 1:18 aircraft collection will grow by a couple more planes next year.

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