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weapons 90mm, 100mm, 120mm

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 6:57 am
by bswearer
so i was trying to think of some ways to get those odd weapons for some ww2 XD figures. i was thinking, look for resin kits.....i know 100mm would work perfectly, but what about 90mm or 120mm? close but could be too small too big... thoughts? if either worked, would it be worth it to buy a whole figure just for the weapon? aslo, if the size worked, could somebody just cast the weapons into the right material and sell them off?

edit: finds so far

90mm lee-enfield
90mm ppsh
120mm lee-enfield
120mm ppsh41
120mm dp28
120mm thompson (typewriter style)

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 7:51 am
by bswearer
actually i just read that 1:18 scale = 90mm......is that correct? if so, ignore the 120mm stuff...the 90mm stuff should be perfect!!!!

lee-enfield
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 8:29 am
by aferguson
90mm is about 1/20. 1/18 is about 100mm. I've used a few 1/16 weapons and while noticabley big, they work. 120mm is variously described as 1/16 and 1/15. In truth it is virtually 1/15. Many of the xd weapons are over scale or under scale, anyway.

What ppsh did you find?

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 9:22 am
by Razor17019
Can you post links to where you found the kits?

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:48 am
by bswearer
sure thing! used to buy some 1:32 and 1:18 stuff from www.michtoys.com so that's where i remembered seeing them

the three companies i found offereing the figs were these ones:
http://www.michtoy.com/MTSCnewSite/figu ... iance.html
http://www.michtoy.com/MTSCnewSite/figu ... _Kits.html
http://www.michtoy.com/MTSCnewSite/figu ... tures.html

kinda expensive but take a look

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 3:44 pm
by bswearer
oooooh the dp28......i wish i could just buy it, see what the fit looked like, and if it was too big/small etc... just return it :lol:

next mission.....find a mn91/30 !!!!!

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:50 pm
by aferguson
if they're 90mm they're going to look small. They'll be as small as 1/16 scale is too big. Quite noticable. 10%

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 12:55 am
by bswearer
well i'm seeing some conflicting descriptions of what equals what and it's getting very confusing

all i know is when i do the simple math 90mm is about 3.5", 100mm is about 3.9" and 120mm is about 4.7". so the whole inch=mm thing is not really the question.....determining scale is the question.

what wikipedia says is 1:18 equals 4" therefore because 4" equals 100mm then 1:18 equals 100mm, but that's only discussing cars.

now this miniatures site claims 1:18=90mm and 1:16=100.6mm which i guess means that they are saying 1:16 would then equal 4" because it equals 100mm??? it's actually quite interesting the way that site concluded the scaling with eyeheight. so it appears that it all boils down to the manufacturers differing as to which use eyeheight and which use the top of the head as their base for scaling

is there like some international scaling rule posted somewhere or is it just one of those kinda things where it is up to invidual figures/weapons and individual collectors preferences?

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:05 pm
by momaw nadon
bswearer wrote:well i'm seeing some conflicting descriptions of what equals what and it's getting very confusing

all i know is when i do the simple math 90mm is about 3.5", 100mm is about 3.9" and 120mm is about 4.7". so the whole inch=mm thing is not really the question.....determining scale is the question.

what wikipedia says is 1:18 equals 4" therefore because 4" equals 100mm then 1:18 equals 100mm, but that's only discussing cars.

now this miniatures site claims 1:18=90mm and 1:16=100.6mm which i guess means that they are saying 1:16 would then equal 4" because it equals 100mm??? it's actually quite interesting the way that site concluded the scaling with eyeheight. so it appears that it all boils down to the manufacturers differing as to which use eyeheight and which use the top of the head as their base for scaling

is there like some international scaling rule posted somewhere or is it just one of those kinda things where it is up to invidual figures/weapons and individual collectors preferences?
I think the main problem you find when dealing with American to Metic is that they don't match up perfectly.

6 feet to 1.8288 meters - 1:1
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4 inches is really 101.6 millimeters - 1:18

Scale calculation is hard to type out without showing you the problem, but many websites have scale calculators that can help. This is one I use when being lazy. In any sense scale is a math problem and can be figured to the exact measurement.