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21st Century 1/6 AH-6?

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 2:37 pm
by dragon53
Any comments on the 21st Century 1/6 AH-6 Little Bird?..Is this a good model to own for $50?

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 2:56 pm
by Threetoughtrucks
All you need is the room to display it. With the rotors in flying position, it takes up half a room of displace space.

Mine has been sitting in my basement and now garage since I got it. It is a great model, add an armed co-pilot and you are cooking (mine came with a pilot only). Add a set of instrument panel decals and it looks even better.

The only drawback are weak landing struts. They tend to weaken but mine haven't broken (from the weight) in five years of sitting on the struts.

For $50? Great buy, assuming everything (rockets, guns) are there. Good price even without the weapons, and you you can rig a bench seat on the sides and carry troopers ala Black Hawk Down. :lol:

Welcome to my world.......

TTT

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 3:18 pm
by dragon53
THREETOUGHTRUCKS:

Thanks for the info. I just ordered a mint AH-6 with pilot for $50 plus $25 shipping.

Questions:
1. Are co-pilot and a Delta Force figures available?
2. What was the original price of the 1/6 AH-6?...(Badcat has it for $300-Private Reserve).

Photos I found of what appears to be a 1/6 Delta Force figure on the 1/6 AH-6:

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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:26 pm
by chunks
BBI made a modern Apache Pilot and 21c made a Vietnam era pilot. BBI's includes some nice modern stuff, but the helmet is unique to the Apache. 21c's helmet might be a good replacement. Both are OOP but can be found from time to time.

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Here's a coupla quick finds for the Delta Force, no connection with the sellers. Just giving you an idea of what's out there.

http://cgi.ebay.com/U-S-rmy-Delta-Force ... dZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/Dragon-Modern-US-De ... 18Q2el1247

http://cgi.ebay.com/Dragon-Modern-1-6-S ... 18Q2el1247

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:29 pm
by dragon53
CHUNKS:

Thanks. I saw the Dragon 1/6 Delta Force figure on Monkeydepot several weeks ago--it sold out at around $96.

Do you recognize the 1/6 special ops figure in the 3 photos I posted above?

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 6:04 pm
by chunks
Not sure I'd seen any in the all black uniform. One of them looks like this guy, but from the text at the bottom it's a custom, read it you might get some better idea then my own quick lookover. He seems to have several figures he's made up from DML, BBI, 21c, and others also.

http://mindxstorm.com/cia_night_ops_photos.html

Ahh, looks like Soldier Story makes one.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1-6-scale-Soldier-S ... dZViewItem

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 6:29 pm
by Grilledcheese
Blue Box made Delta Force figures early on, and they can still be found. Go to Ebay and search BBI DELTA. There's one up right now for Buy It Now at $29.99.

Don't know if that's what you're looking for, but they are rather inexpensive.



Jeffrey

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:31 pm
by P47faninchicago
hmmm, would you mind sharing where you ordered the AH-6 from?? :)

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 8:09 pm
by luftpanzer
Didnt some one hook thiers up to a cieling fan?

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 8:39 pm
by Plane Nuts
dragon53 wrote:
2. What was the original price of the 1/6 AH-6?...(Badcat has it for $300-Private Reserve).
I can't remember exactly, but I think I paid between $60 and $75 when they were on the shelf at TRU.

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:32 pm
by dragon53
GUYS:

Thanks for the info. I'll keep looking on ebay for some 1/6 figures---that black figure in the photos is what I'm looking for. It may be a 21st Century 1/6 figure.

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:33 pm
by dragon53
P47FANINCHICAGO:

I got it on another message board. I saw some new ones on ebay---Vietnam green and a black one, too.

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 10:30 pm
by Threetoughtrucks
I have been using the 21C VN era pilot as my co-pilot. With the helmet nobody can tell any difference.

The pic posted here of the ranger sitting on the rocket launcher ready for trouble seems kind of silly. Guys just wouldn't sit on the launcher as a normal course of events.

That said, I believe an Apache saved a small group of guys in Afgan by lifting the guys up a hillside to safety when ambushed and the guys sat on rocket pods. I think that was last year but it was an emergency.

If you see BHD you'll see the rangers on Little Birds without rockets or guns, I believe they were four guys to a bird on bench seats on each side..

If I remember correctly, I got mine at TRU for around $60. The box was huge and crushed on two corners but the piece was untouched. Getting the bird on clearance and not paying shipping was a happy day... :wink:
I have seen them go for around $200 on EBay, more than once.

TTT

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 4:26 am
by iflabs
Man, I would love one of these. Saw one of these hanging at TRU years ago and when I got into collecting, they were gone.

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 9:21 am
by Tinman
I got a 1/6 LOACH in 2002, I think. I was really nice! I also had the 1/6 Mutt at the time, plus several VN era figures and weapons sets.

The LOACH was just SO big. It did take up a lot of space.

Around 2003 I sold it off, along with the Mutt (kept a few figures - still have them stowed away) so I could focus on 1:18.

It was a great piece, though. I think I bought it on clearance from TRU.com, with free shipping (big box!). Don't recall what I paid.

The Mutt I purchased online from KB Toys, for $25 and free shipping. Another steal.

OK, back to 1:18....

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 8:33 pm
by Folkwulfe
With a little extra detailing, the 21C Littlebird is a fantastic piece. I redid one into more authantic OH-6B Cayuse config, but it took awhile to complete. This is what she looks like now....
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Oh...and beside the obvious external and internal changes, I redid the skids and cured that weakness perminantly. It's not that difficults to do....but time consuming.

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 8:49 pm
by Threetoughtrucks
Folk...

Great job. When you redid the skids, did you use metal? plastic? or what?

TTT

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:37 am
by dragon53
FOLKWULFE:

That's a great-looking OH-6 you did.

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:15 am
by NWarty
Beautiful work FW! :wink:

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 7:08 am
by dragon53
The custom Loach made me wonder if anyone has tried a custom MAGNUM PI version.

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 7:26 am
by warhawker
luftpanzer wrote:Didnt some one hook thiers up to a cieling fan?
I do that. I engineered so that there are three florescent lights off the body of the heli. I have done a few and sold them to different clients. I have done them all, OH-6B, Black op, Police and Fire. I currently have the Fire version in my game room.
I will look for some of my past photos and post them.

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:48 pm
by Folkwulfe
OK guys....if you want the "skinny" on how the skids were redone....it'll cost you!
Naw....just kidding. Take the skids off (three screws in the belly on each side). You will have the skid legs and the molded-in skids attached. Cut the plastic skids off right at the bottom of the legs and throw them away! Also hollow out the skid legs from behind (leave the outside surface untouched). Take brass sheet (thick) and just wide enough to fit inside the interior of the skid leg you just hollowed out. Bend a lazy "L" in the brass at the top so that it covers the screw hole at the top of the leg and epoxy the brass to the leg completely. Once the epoxy is cured completely, re-drill the mounting hole at the top through the brass. Get some thinner brass sheet (you don't need but maybe two 4" pieces (per side) and two (brass or aluminum) tubes long enough to go from just aft of the back leg to about the farthest forward of the nose glass (it actually is longer than the "stock" skids). To put the bend in the skids themselves tape one end shut and fill the tube with water and freeze overnight. Then carefully bend the skid up at the front until it looks right and repeat for the other skid tube. Run warm water over it until all the ice inside is gone. The two 4" pieces are wrapped around the tube at the bottom of the legs and attached by two small nut/bolts per leg (I found some great inexpensive ones at the model train department). Once everything is together, fill the back of the hollowed out legs AND the ends (both) of each skid with Bondo car body putty...sand smooth and paint. When you are done the skids look almost exactly like before (except longer like they should be) and they are strong as can be. Mine has sat on those legs for a couple of years now and have not sagged a milimeter. This is what they look like from the underside when finished..I told you it was easy but time consuming....didn't I???
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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:49 pm
by Folkwulfe
Crap...double post due to network slowdown!!!

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:50 pm
by Folkwulfe
.....and of coarse the obligitory triple post....?

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:50 pm
by dragon53
Did 21st Century ever sell the 1/6 AH-6 pilot individually?