1:18 F-4 Phantom 'Steve Ritchie' for preorder!

tkjaer21 · Post by **tkjaer21** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:54 pm

http://www.themotorpool.net/USAF-McDonn ... hantom.htm

Who makes this. Is it Admiral. I can't wait.

USAF McDonnell F-4D Phantom II Fighter-Bomber - Capt. Richard Stephen “Steve” Ritchie, 432nd Tactical Reconnaissance Wing, Udon RTAFB, Thailand (1:18 Scale)

tkjaer21 · Post by **tkjaer21** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:57 pm

Never mind, it is 21C as they have the Mig-21 listed too.

http://www.themotorpool.net/Russian-Mik ... tmig21.htm

tkjaer21 · Post by **tkjaer21** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:59 pm

Are they going to be released? I thought that they were canceled. They seem to still be taking pre-orders.

Info:

List Price: $94.99
Our Price: $89.99 Pre-Order. Ship Date 2009!
You Save $5.00!

Availability: Pre-Order
Product Code: 21STMIG21

VMF115 · Post by **VMF115** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:03 pm

that's not new.
they have had that listed as a pre order for sometime now..
wish it was new.......................

GooglyDoogly · Post by **GooglyDoogly** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:11 pm

LOL!

VMF115 · Post by **VMF115** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:13 pm

medic83 wrote:Why do they tease us like that? I feel like the donkey with the carrot dangling in front of huim not realizing it is strapped to his back.

Its more like a picture of a carrot not even a real carrot.

STUKA · Post by **STUKA** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:13 pm

No No No!! No!!! I got giddy for a second!!!!
noooooo
echo
echo

tosborne3 · Post by **tosborne3** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:17 pm

Ohhhhh the humanity............

chunks · Post by **chunks** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:27 pm

Just came within one click of placing my preorder for this and the MiG-21, and then decided it would be just wrong on too many levels.

FieroDude · Post by **FieroDude** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:44 pm

chunks wrote:Just came within one click of placing my preorder for this and the MiG-21, and then decided it would be just wrong on too many levels.

The name Madoff comes to mind...

VMF115 · Post by **VMF115** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:49 pm

FieroDude wrote:
chunks wrote:Just came within one click of placing my preorder for this and the MiG-21, and then decided it would be just wrong on too many levels.
The name Madoff comes to mind...

Madoff= Made OFF

dcmacharlie · Post by **dcmacharlie** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:36 pm

Almost ordered 2 and them, then got over my excitment and read the rest of the replys, only wish it was true. Ill order 2 or more when and if they come out, in the mean time!!!!
Iam really thinking of turning my1:32size BBI F4 into a Viet Nam camo , anyone got any ideas for making the drop tanks, wing ones, would like to add them to the model, also need some new stickers, may get some from some of the 32size model kit manfactures

immeww2 · Post by **immeww2** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:01 pm

Talk about false advertising.

tkjaer21 · Post by **tkjaer21** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:35 am

immeww2 wrote:Talk about false advertising.

That is why I was wondering if this was actually coming out in 2009. It seems that they should clarify it more.

vulgarvulture · Post by **vulgarvulture** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:52 am

lightning2000 (owner of Motorpool) responded to our questions about the pre-order listings in an older post, as to why he has them listed. Maybe do a search to see his response, as I can't remember exactly what he said.

lightning2000 · Post by **lightning2000** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:36 am

Hi Guys,
We've had these listings up for a long time based upon preliminary information we received from the manufacturer. When last we spoke to them, they were considered "black projects" which in this day and age can mean anything.

Frankly, I'm at a loss for words looking over some of your posts. Many of you want to pre-order an item as soon as its announced while others prefer to wait. So, we posted the items for pre-order and never asked for anyone's money. I mean you cant have it both ways, haranguing us to place early orders then chastising us for not shipping the item when the manufacturer runs into problems. If things have changed at the manufacturer's end, and these aircraft never come to fruition, then we'll delist the items and refund any payments for anyone that insisted upon sending us payment early via PayPal. What more do you want? Were you expecting us to take over production of these products once ship dates started to slip?

Honestly, some of you need to get a grip on the situation and stop beating up vendors when they're trying to serve your needs. You did the same thing with BCA when they offered to sell hard-to-find items at non-introductory prices. You want your cake and eat it too at the height of an economic downturn. Please lighten up a bit and enjoy what you already own...

Cordially,

Marc Dultz
Lightning2000
www.themotorpool.net

paulpratt · Post by **paulpratt** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:28 am

lightning2000 wrote:Hi Guys,
We've had these listings up for a long time based upon preliminary information we received from the manufacturer. When last we spoke to them, they were considered "black projects" which in this day and age can mean anything.

Frankly, I'm at a loss for words looking over some of your posts. Many of you want to pre-order an item as soon as its announced while others prefer to wait. So, we posted the items for pre-order and never asked for anyone's money. I mean you cant have it both ways, haranguing us to place early orders then chastising us for not shipping the item when the manufacturer runs into problems. If things have changed at the manufacturer's end, and these aircraft never come to fruition, then we'll delist the items and refund any payments for anyone that insisted upon sending us payment early via PayPal. What more do you want? Were you expecting us to take over production of these products once ship dates started to slip?

Honestly, some of you need to get a grip on the situation and stop beating up vendors when they're trying to serve your needs. You did the same thing with BCA when they offered to sell hard-to-find items at non-introductory prices. You want your cake and eat it too at the height of an economic downturn. Please lighten up a bit and enjoy what you already own...

That is probably the best thing I've ever read in my life. So true.

Dauntless · Post by **Dauntless** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:40 am

HERE HERE!!

Panther F · Post by **Panther F** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:47 pm

paulpratt wrote:
lightning2000 wrote:Hi Guys,
We've had these listings up for a long time based upon preliminary information we received from the manufacturer. When last we spoke to them, they were considered "black projects" which in this day and age can mean anything.

Frankly, I'm at a loss for words looking over some of your posts. Many of you want to pre-order an item as soon as its announced while others prefer to wait. So, we posted the items for pre-order and never asked for anyone's money. I mean you cant have it both ways, haranguing us to place early orders then chastising us for not shipping the item when the manufacturer runs into problems. If things have changed at the manufacturer's end, and these aircraft never come to fruition, then we'll delist the items and refund any payments for anyone that insisted upon sending us payment early via PayPal. What more do you want? Were you expecting us to take over production of these products once ship dates started to slip?

Honestly, some of you need to get a grip on the situation and stop beating up vendors when they're trying to serve your needs. You did the same thing with BCA when they offered to sell hard-to-find items at non-introductory prices. You want your cake and eat it too at the height of an economic downturn. Please lighten up a bit and enjoy what you already own...
That is probably the best thing I've ever read in my life. So true.

I concur! I can't believe the moderator allows this type of behavior.

GooglyDoogly · Post by **GooglyDoogly** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:20 pm

lightning2000 wrote:Hi Guys,
We've had these listings up for a long time based upon preliminary information we received from the manufacturer. When last we spoke to them, they were considered "black projects" which in this day and age can mean anything.

Frankly, I'm at a loss for words looking over some of your posts. Many of you want to pre-order an item as soon as its announced while others prefer to wait. So, we posted the items for pre-order and never asked for anyone's money. I mean you cant have it both ways, haranguing us to place early orders then chastising us for not shipping the item when the manufacturer runs into problems. If things have changed at the manufacturer's end, and these aircraft never come to fruition, then we'll delist the items and refund any payments for anyone that insisted upon sending us payment early via PayPal. What more do you want? Were you expecting us to take over production of these products once ship dates started to slip?

Honestly, some of you need to get a grip on the situation and stop beating up vendors when they're trying to serve your needs. You did the same thing with BCA when they offered to sell hard-to-find items at non-introductory prices. You want your cake and eat it too at the height of an economic downturn. Please lighten up a bit and enjoy what you already own...

Cordially,

Marc Dultz
Lightning2000
www.themotorpool.net

To be honest, I only laughed because I know that was a very very very old news, but it still gets a a random member excited once in a while.

I think most people's comments are not necessarily directed at you, or at least not because of your website, but because people are still smarting over 21st's stupid fiasco over the F-4/MiG-21/B-25 thing.

FieroDude · Post by **FieroDude** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:13 pm

To set the record straight, my Madoff comment was not directed at The Motor Pool or any other on-line retailer. Personally, I think you (retailers) and we (collectors) all got took in one way or another with the announcement of 3 aircraft that I sincerely believe were never intended to be built, only because the "new kid on the block" DID intend to produce at least one of them (F-4 - to the point of having a full prototype), and had tentative discussions about another (B-25). Instead of expanding the industry, I believe that the "we will make it first, and cheaper" claim was part of what essentially shut it down, at least for now. As a result, retailers and collectors alike are suffering, and the only irony is that the company who started it seems to be suffering just as much if not more.

VMF115 · Post by **VMF115** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:59 pm

I was just making a funny about how close Madoff sounded like Made Off...and not directed towards anyone.

AMERICAN_GRENADIER · Post by **AMERICAN_GRENADIER** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:05 pm

i dont believe that plane will see the light of day!!!!
some venders should see the writing on the wall!
put it up in your news section and give updates like other online stores

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